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Are you daft? Due to his age he is required to take distributions from SS (and be taxed upon those). Now you suggest he should also work for free? Are you willing to suggest that every single Congressman/woman who has any form of outside income whatsoever should also be working for free?
Stop blathering and hyperventilating as though your assumptions are in any way a portrayal of reality. Ron Paul has rejected the federal retirement pension he could collect after he leaves Congress, in other words, his last day in Congress is his last day of Congressional pay and benefits; and, he does not participate in the federal healthcare program but provides for his own health insurance.
He should shut up about it because he is a hypocrite! If he wants to cut spending, let's start with his free parking spot that costing tax payers or his free per diem as a congressman or his free police escorts. He should opt out of all of that.
I've read a lot of your posts and you seem very unbiased given your political leanings. Here's the problem that I have with Paul. He is way too over the top with his ideas and he boxes himself in corners that he cannot get out of. The SS thing for one. Here's a man who has paid into the system and is getting a check. Yes, he has paid more than what he is getting out. The system is flawed obviously. But how can you consciously take his position when he is also benefitting from it for lack of a better word. He is also benefitting from his position as a Congressman. He gets and receives all the perks and priviledges. He is a part of the problem. How can you tell me we need to make cuts when you are one of the main culprits? How much does Capitol Police protection cost tax payers per year? But he called for an end to Presidential SS protection. Free medical? Per diem? Free food? Free travel? Car service? Free drycleaning? Free parking? Billions!!!!!!! That's my hard earned money and your hard earned money paying for these perks.
He also turned down "security" while campaigning and returns unused funds. As pointed out he is also not benefitting in other ways, as well. I agree the expense accounts are insane. However, you don't know what he does/doesn't use or spend so you are assuming. You can't blame RP for those "designs".
As to things like parking, that is nuts anyway because that is govt "screwing" govt. You need to get from point A to Point B.
The system needs changing. RP is trying to do that. He does more than any congressman I have seen, but plenty don't give him credit for that.
I have No problem with Dr. Paul getting his SS, but he should live on it alone dropping his pay and perks as a congressmen.
Why? If you are retired or when you retire are you going to live on SS and forget any retirement you are entitled to, do you think anyone can really survive on SS alone? What about others who have part and full time jobs after age 65? Should they forget about working and live on SS?
I also have no problem with Mr. Paul filing for and receiving Social Security retirement benefits.
I will add, however, that a person is under no obligation to file. There is nothing in the law that mandates filing. No one will call you demanding that you file. Indeed, I guess that it would be best for those of means to not file. It is each individuals choice.
I also have no problem with Mr. Paul filing for and receiving Social Security retirement benefits.
I will add, however, that a person is under no obligation to file. There is nothing in the law that mandates filing. No one will call you demanding that you file. Indeed, I guess that it would be best for those of means to not file. It is each individuals choice.
Now can you opt out of having SS taken out of your paycheck?
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so are you saying he isn't entitled to receive the SS he paid into for over 50 years?
This thread shows a complete misunderstanding of the social security system, and one that's prevalent in this thread by people who are upset about social security.
Social security is debt. It always has, and always will be. No one has paid into social security, they have simply been paying back security bonds. Social security is basically a low interest loan against the people of the U.S. backed by our gov't, which is why social security funds are among the first our gov't goes for when trying to fund various aspects of our country. Our government isn't borrowing "against" social security, they are borrowing with our government.
In case you didn't get that, social security is not a retirement fund that offers a return; it's debt that you have, and have to pay back. The SS deduction from your paycheck is not due to Obama (just like it wasn't Bush Jr.'s fault), it's because we owe on our parents... just like your kids will owe on you.
Again, you haven't paid into social security, you've been paying back your parents' retirement loans. Thus, regardless of how much you've paid into social security, you are not owed anything. Just like your children will be paying back debt for you.
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