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Old 09-05-2012, 01:10 AM
 
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God has rules, and they want to live by their own self determined rules of "I do what I want".
You hit the nail squarely on the head with that one. This is exactly what it all boils down to.
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Old 09-05-2012, 01:11 AM
 
Location: California
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God has rules, and they want to live by their own self determined rules of "I do what I want".
They realize that "gods laws" arent' really enforceable, or fully understood, until after death when judgment day comes. In the meantime we have man's laws, it's really the best we can do considering how many versions of "gods laws" men have interpreted.

Seriously people, there are plenty of liberal, democrat, christians and OTHER faiths. We can't set our laws based on whatever-god-you-believe-in person gets into a position of power. All intelligent people of faith know this. Only ignorant fools say otherwise. Romney wouldn't have reached the position he has if his faith was important in any way. It doesn't matter.
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Old 09-05-2012, 01:16 AM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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God is a two bit punk anyway. Yogi Bear has higher morals.
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Old 09-05-2012, 01:18 AM
 
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Religion is a matter between you and your God and has no place on any political platform.

A belief in God does not have anything to do with a particular religion. By far, the majority of people in this country believe in God, regardless of their specific religion or the lack thereof.
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Old 09-05-2012, 01:22 AM
 
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More like Obama important to special interest groups that gave him big money. I suspect Obama & Romney would not be favored candidates if public could choose. Of course some just vote by party , so any Dem or Rep will do.


Uh, the public did choose in those things called the primaries. Remember that Republican primary that took almost a year and was drug out forever and a day and cost millions of dollars? The public chose Mitt Romney to be their nominee by millions of votes. The public chose Obama to be the Democratic nominee and the president, although I will say a lot of them regret that choice.
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Old 09-05-2012, 01:23 AM
 
Location: OCEAN BREEZES AND VIEWS SAN CLEMENTE
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But have they changed their support to Romney or are they still drinking the Obama kool-aid? If they are still supporting Obama that goes to show what issues are important to them, and if that's the case its not the economy and jobs.
Those are very good points you bring up. I understand where your coming from. I know of a younger women who lost her job under Obama, she had it for quite a while. I overheard her talking about how great it is that there is food stamps and welfare for the people.

But she was making it sound as if this is something so very great and to be proud of. I was going to bring something up to her, but thought i bettere shut my italian mouth.

If that is some of the mentality out there voting for Obama, i can see why. If you want to move the Country in a different direction, and get us back on track because this economy has been stagnet for way too long. Business wise, he sucks!

Are people honestly and sincerely and from the bottom of their hearts, knowingly better off then 4 yrs ago, the answer for most is simply no.
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Old 09-05-2012, 01:24 AM
 
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So, because wassermann did not mention Jerusalem, that means its off the platform? Really? LOL
No, not because she didn't mention it, but because it is not referred to as the capital and is off the platform...just like God. Sort of makes me think they just want to be doomed to fail...or struck by lightening.
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Old 09-05-2012, 01:29 AM
 
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Actually, this Nation has basically dropped God.

Individually, many geniune Christians still are Faithful, but this is not a Godly Nation as it was when my Dad and Grand-Dad were active. And, doubtless, GOD's Hand of Judgement is moving across the fruited plain. Example, the Un-Godly leaders we NOW suffer because of.
You said a mouthful there! You are 100% correct in your assessment.....God have mercy on our Country!
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Old 09-05-2012, 01:31 AM
 
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Obama is every bit as responsible as was the captain of the Titanic. You can rearraing deck chairs all you want it isn't going to change the outcome. All the RNC promised is to rearraing the deck chairs. All the DNC is promising is to increase the speed and steer directly into the iceberg. However, to lighten the weight and make the ship go faster they are cutting the ropes to the life boats and dumping them overboard then levying a tax on everyone who is wearing a life jacket.
Not exactly. Republican ideology of laissez faire capitalism led us here. We actually have to raise taxes on the wealthiest Americans as well as on corporations. We need to invest in a safety net.

The analogy is not truly apt since you're assuming those that were fighting in reducing spending (like healthcare cost and actually put a timeline for the war in Afghanistan) are worse than those that according to the CBO contributed to larger increases of the deficit as well as cut social services for the poorest Americans.
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Old 09-05-2012, 01:34 AM
 
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Those are very good points you bring up. I understand where your coming from. I know of a younger women who lost her job under Obama, she had it for quite a while. I overheard her talking about how great it is that there is food stamps and welfare for the people.

But she was making it sound as if this is something so very great and to be proud of. I was going to bring something up to her, but thought i bettere shut my italian mouth.

If that is some of the mentality out there voting for Obama, i can see why. If you want to move the Country in a different direction, and get us back on track because this economy has been stagnet for way too long. Business wise, he sucks!

Are people honestly and sincerely and from the bottom of their hearts, knowingly better off then 4 yrs ago, the answer for most is simply no.
Shouldn't you be happy that you're friend is eating and able to make basic payments while looking for a job? Her mentality is like everyone else, there are a few basic things that are needed to survive.

A social safety net is pretty important in a modern nation. It ensures the stability of the middle class. Few people abuse these services, since most people actually derive a sense of worth from working (thus its preferable to work). Not only that, the incentives are in favor of working.

I agree with a min. safety net. We don't need anything lavish, just something that ensures that all Americans are not starving or homeless.
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