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Otherwise, maybe you should just be pissed at Mitt for not serving in the war and dispense with your unfounded conclusions concerning how he came to get a deferment.
I know how the draft boards worked. I guess you'll just have to trust me on that.
OK. So let's say Dad (who I liked a heck of a lot more than I do his son, BTW) didn't pull strings and get ol' Mitt sent to Paris to knock on doors. I guess I'll just concentrate on Mitt holding those signs at Stanford and telling other students they should submit to the draft. While he got his religious deferment.
I'm not ticked at Mitt not for serving in the war. I'm ticked that he told other students they should be drafted while he dodged it with his religious deferment. Had he just sauntered off to Paris in the 60's with his religious deferment I'd think: OK. It happened. (I knew guys who got religious deferments, BTW. And they were Mormons. One was a Quaker. Maybe they were the smart ones. Because I also had friends come home dead in a box. Nothing says grief like going to the funeral of a kid you grew up with who was dead at the age of 20 because he was drafted and killed in a war he didn't ask for.)
But Mitt took a stand for the draft then said. "Except me." I have more respect for Bill Clinton. Who protested the draft and the war and never made any bones about it. Clinton didn't tell other guys they should get drafted and go to Vietnam. He protested the draft, the war, the whole sorry mess. Him I respect. I have no problems with guys who protested the war. And I respect the men who served in it. Greatly. Mitt? Nope.
p.s. I was cleaning out a drawer yesterday and found the rubbings I made at the Vietnam Memorial in D.C. Names of guys (boys, really) I knew who were killed in Vietnam. I wonder if Mitt's done the same....
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Almost all of Romney's children are of age to serve or volunteer for the armed services, yet, none of them have enlisted.
Why do you think this is?
Romney seems all to willing to send others off to fight wars, why wouldn't he encourage his kids to go fight?
After all, even offspring of prominent officials in the UK have their offspring involved in ME wars.
whty haven't a lot of your kids not served, yours or maybe your grandkids or how about you? How about 2/3 of the congress' kids or your neighbors kids, or how about the young people working in your office, if you work in an office? How about the kid who works at your nearby Micky Ds? This is the dumbest question I have seen in ages and so many of you keep asking it, whether your family has or has not served...if you think it is going to make a difference in the outcome of the election you need to join the real world....What about Obama, did he serve? Maybe it is time to bring back the draft, then this would not even be a subject for debate....
Yes, I do.
Any reason why you feel compelled to yell at everyone who is reading your post?
You have to understand, and I believe Rachael Maddow brought this to light a few years ago, when a righty thinks they're right (PC) and they feel nobody on the left is listening to them, they yell, or turn up the volume/rhetoric. Kinda like the 5 year old trying to get a word in edgewise in a room full of adults discussing something other than a tonka truck or a cabbage patch doll.
whty haven't a lot of your kids not served, yours or maybe your grandkids or how about you? How about 2/3 of the congress' kids or your neighbors kids, or how about the young people working in your office, if you work in an office? How about the kid who works at your nearby Micky Ds? This is the dumbest question I have seen in ages and so many of you keep asking it, whether your family has or has not served...if you think it is going to make a difference in the outcome of the election you need to join the real world....What about Obama, did he serve? Maybe it is time to bring back the draft, then this would not even be a subject for debate....
You appear to be mad, angry, if you've bothered to read the thread, you'd know that the question, have I served was answered already.
Thanks for your input and opinion.
Of all the issues this nation faces I am struggling to understand what Romney's childrens life choices have to do with turning this nation around.
On one hand those on the left are quick to make excuses for members of their party who never served.
As long as there is no draft there is a choice.
Those on the right were quick to condemn Clinton and Obama for not serving. I personally feel that the Potus should have served so that they can understand the hardships of those who wear our nations uniform.
That said we have had presidents who never served. That cat is out of the bag and can't be changed.
This is a non-issue at best.
What does matter is our debt.
What does matter is our real unemployment.
What does matter is we are in a lot of trouble.
Who can help the economy more? A business novice or someone who understands the needs of business?
Both want to continue screwing around in the ME so that is a wash.
Both want to continue playing worl cop. That is a wash.
One wants to raise taxes without cuts.
The other wants to lower taxes but eliminate loopholes.
Niether are ideal choices. One has already proven himself to be a big spend and waste kind of president.
Lessor of 2 evils to be sure. The military status of their children means nothing.
Of all the issues this nation faces I am struggling to understand what Romney's childrens life choices have to do with turning this nation around.
On one hand those on the left are quick to make excuses for members of their party who never served.
As long as there is no draft there is a choice.
Those on the right were quick to condemn Clinton and Obama for not serving. I personally feel that the Potus should have served so that they can understand the hardships of those who wear our nations uniform.
That said we have had presidents who never served. That cat is out of the bag and can't be changed.
This is a non-issue at best.
What does matter is our debt.
What does matter is our real unemployment.
What does matter is we are in a lot of trouble.
Who can help the economy more? A business novice or someone who understands the needs of business?
Both want to continue screwing around in the ME so that is a wash.
Both want to continue playing worl cop. That is a wash.
One wants to raise taxes without cuts.
The other wants to lower taxes but eliminate loopholes.
Niether are ideal choices. One has already proven himself to be a big spend and waste kind of president.
Lessor of 2 evils to be sure. The military status of their children means nothing.
Its a liberal argument from a long ways back, in the 60's. Congressmen and well to do Americans children rarely serve. So when someone who is well off, and never served, and their children never served, and they start talking about military actions, liberals get really upset.
I'd understand this argument if it was indeed the 60's, and the draft was on.
But its not, no one made those kids enlist. I don't remember the gun to my head when I enlisted many years ago either. Maybe they just brain washed it out of me
Actively avoiding military service is an issue if you're going to be a HAWK on military use, and try to cast yourself as some tough guy on foreign policy issues.
Obama is not a neocon. He's not the one rattling sabers about war with Iran. He's not the one committing American lives to an expanded role in the Middle East.
Almost all of Romney's children are of age to serve or volunteer for the armed services, yet, none of them have enlisted.
Why do you think this is?
Romney seems all to willing to send others off to fight wars, why wouldn't he encourage his kids to go fight?
After all, even offspring of prominent officials in the UK have their offspring involved in ME wars.
It's because they were serving their lord...that's the justification from the right at least.
They all had time (and money...from that cash that all the Mormons hide from the Government with their "tithe" which then goes to pay for proselytizing vacations to Paris and Bordeaux like Mitt got to enjoy) to spend two years trying to convince people that their system of beliefs isn't completely wacko and is worth joining. But none of them seem to have the time to serve. Mormons in general serve the military in a pretty similar rate to their rate amongst the people so it's not a religious thing...it's merely a "we're rich and better than everyone else, even other Mormons, so the Romneys wont serve this country...but they'll continue to travel to France to spread the cult."
Frankly, there shouldn't be a candidate from ANY party advocating for a larger or even same-sized military, it needs to be cut by at least 1/3 if we want this country to survive into the next couple of decades. Our military budget is bigger than the next 20 largest military budgets (including Japan, Israel, Saudi Arabia, China, Russia, etc.) COMBINED. That's insane and idiotic. The massive standing military is simply this nation's version of Socialism, taking my tax money and giving it to support troops who have nothing to do with our wars or our national security. It's just a freaking jobs program...except that hundreds of thousands of the jobs are overseas and do not really benefit the American economy whatsoever.
Our military is a professional one. In other words, serving in the armed forces is a job - albeit one that comes with certain risks. In essence, it is no different than being a cop or a fireman except that you may be deployed abroad.
Why would Romney, or any parent, push their children to take any job, especially one that bears inherent risks? Shouldn't the kids be in charge of determining where their interests lie? If they are not interested in serving in the military, so what? It's nothing to get upset about. There's certainly nothing controversial about it.
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