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Old 11-03-2012, 09:00 PM
 
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You make me wish that the conservative paranoia of the feminist dystopia were actually true and soon to come to fruition. I'd make sure that you were assigned as my houseboy. You'd scrub toilets during the day and read Kristeva aloud at night to the wind while you lie on your bed of pebbles.
You are rocking this thread.

(Wait until they Google and find out who Kristeva is. Who needs coal when America can tap into their heads exploding as the new, free energy source. )

We now return you to the regular insults from the usual suspects who think your place is in the kitchen.

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Old 11-03-2012, 09:09 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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All true. I have had those discussions.

I didn't say YOU helen.
I never said that you were talking about me specifically.

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If women's health issues are more important to you than the economy then vote for who you think will best take care of you.

Men are clearly voting for Romney for a better economy.
Are you or are you not arguing that the gender gap in Virginia is due to women allowing women's health issues determine their vote and that such decision-making is narrow minded, if not, downright ignorant?

If this is not your contention, then what, pray tell, is the reason for the difference in support for each candidate from men and women in Virginia?
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Old 11-03-2012, 09:30 PM
 
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I never said that you were talking about me specifically.

Are you or are you not arguing that the gender gap in Virginia is due to women allowing women's health issues determine their vote and that such decision-making is narrow minded, if not, downright ignorant?
I'm not arguing that at all.




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If this is not your contention, then what, pray tell, is the reason for the difference in support for each candidate from men and women in Virginia?
All I said was that more men in Virginia are supporting Romney (by a wide margin) than women.

I speculated that it was because more men are concerned about having jobs than women. The reason they are voting for Romney is because they believe he will be better at getting unemployment down than Obama will be.

If you believe that Obama is best suited to get the economy moving, that's up to you.

Of the 23 million Americans out of work today, women have lost the most jobs in the last 4 years.


Maybe the difference in support for each candidate from men and women in Virginia is simply that women think Obama will get people back to work and men think that Romney will.

What do you think the difference is?
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Old 11-03-2012, 09:42 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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I'm not arguing that at all.






All I said was that more men in Virginia are supporting Romney (by a wide margin) than women.

I speculated that it was because more men are concerned about having jobs than women. The reason they are voting for Romney is because they believe he will be better at getting unemployment down than Obama will be.

If you believe that Obama is best suited to get the economy moving, that's up to you.

Of the 23 million Americans out of work today, women have lost the most jobs in the last 4 years.


Maybe the difference in support for each candidate from men and women in Virginia is simply that women think Obama will get people back to work and men think that Romney will.

What do you think the difference is?
Well if male social issues were being attacked, then I am sure men would care more about that. I doubt women voters care less about jobs and the economy, I just think women treat social issues with equal importance than most men do.
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Old 11-03-2012, 09:43 PM
 
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He would increase jobs by reducing taxes on the rich?

He would increase jobs by having more students drop out of college because he would repeal student loan regulations guaranteeing a fixed rate for 20 years?

Maybe that's OK because he'd also reduce funding for all Education in the U.S. so maybe there wouldn't be so many young people actually going to college--- so more jobs at Mcdonalds?

He would increase jobs by radically reducing funding for research and development in America?

He would reduce taxes on corporations, while the last couple of years most companies had RECORD earnings and profits. How would a reduction in tax make them hire any more people?

He would increase jobs by putting a quarter of the amount that Obama budgets for infrastructure repair?--wait that would decrease jobs.

And while he's at it, he'd reduce the number of teachers and firemen sucking the country dry --- maybe more jobs at Walmart for them?

OK, you tell me --- how would Romney increase jobs.
I would love for this post to be addressed.
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I'm not arguing that at all.

All I said was that more men in Virginia are supporting Romney (by a wide margin) than women.

I speculated that it was because more men are concerned about having jobs than women. The reason they are voting for Romney is because they believe he will be better at getting unemployment down than Obama will be.

If you believe that Obama is best suited to get the economy moving, that's up to you.

Of the 23 million Americans out of work today, women have lost the most jobs in the last 4 years.


Maybe the difference in support for each candidate from men and women in Virginia is simply that women think Obama will get people back to work and men think that Romney will.

What do you think the difference is?
I think there's a distrust and suspicion of double talk, soft and hard lies. Perhaps a fear of returning to policies that account for that dive shown below?


FactCheck.org : Obama’s ‘War on Women’?
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Old 11-03-2012, 09:43 PM
 
Location: The Other California
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If conservative American men want to continue to try and subjugate women and their bodies, alienation is the result. Don't like it? Don't support it and certainly don't participate in it.
By and large, men just want women to be women.

Women quite naturally associate and align themselves with the needs, interests, and politics of their men. It has ever been thus, and ever shall be thus. When this doesn't happen, for whatever reason, something is seriously broken. Granted that men may be partially to blame, but still - something is broken.
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Old 11-03-2012, 09:46 PM
 
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By and large, men just want women to be women.

Women quite naturally associate and align themselves with the needs, interests, and politics of their men. It has ever been thus, and ever shall be thus. When this doesn't happen, for whatever reason, something is seriously broken. Granted that men may be partially to blame, but still - something is broken.
Conservative men are not the only men in the US. I stand by men and my men aren't your men.
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Old 11-03-2012, 09:50 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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By and large, men just want women to be women.

Women quite naturally associate and align themselves with the needs, interests, and politics of their men. It has ever been thus, and ever shall be thus. When this doesn't happen, for whatever reason, something is seriously broken. Granted that men may be partially to blame, but still - something is broken.
Do you care to define that?

Are you trying to say that a good woman votes the way her man votes and when a woman doesn't then there is clearly something wrong?

If that is what you are saying, that is a very close minded view on women and their place in the world. Especially when we live in a country where more women vote than men.
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Old 11-03-2012, 09:50 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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By and large, men just want women to be women.

Women quite naturally associate and align themselves with the needs, interests, and politics of their men. It has ever been thus, and ever shall be thus. When this doesn't happen, for whatever reason, something is seriously broken. Granted that men may be partially to blame, but still - something is broken.
Yeah, what you are describing is called co-dependency. If you know a woman trapped in a co-dependent relationship, tell her that a psychiatrist can help her. She doesn't have to live that way. She can be her own woman, not just some man's.

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Old 11-03-2012, 09:53 PM
 
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Do you care to define that?

Are you trying to say that a good woman votes the way her man votes and when a woman doesn't then there is clearly something wrong?

If that is what you are saying, that is a very close minded view on women and their place in the world. Especially when we live in a country where more women vote than men.
If that's the case it's sexism and it denotes a diminished intellect. Anyhow, my husband is so liberal he's practically a socialist. I can't really join him there. Women are more likely to be swing voters based on what I've been reading.
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