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Old 11-07-2012, 12:06 AM
 
Location: New York City
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God damn, what a last minute in that speech...
The speech he should have delivered at the convention but I suspect his advisors held him back. Very well done.
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Old 11-07-2012, 12:07 AM
 
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Not really.

"The top earmarkers in both the House and Senate are Republicans, even after the GOP has spent much of the past year making fiscal restraint and runaway government spending the centerpiece of its political message.

Rep. Bill Young (R-Fla.) and Sen. Thad Cochran (R-Miss.) — both atop defense spending panels — led their respective bodies in securing earmarks, according to an analysis by the nonprofit Taxpayers for Common Sense..."

Republicans lead earmark list - Jake Sherman - POLITICO.com

Ken

It amazes me that the Democrats are always painted as the big spenders, when it is BOTH!!!
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Old 11-07-2012, 12:08 AM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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It amazes me that Congress has a horrible approval rating, but almost all of the incumbents are winning.
Congress needs more turnover. Not a believer in term limits, but campaign reform and federal funding of elections helps to stir the pot.

Double whammy of ideological differences in regions of the country combined with gerrymandering
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Old 11-07-2012, 12:09 AM
 
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Great speech from Obama
Meh. This is one thing President Obama seems to be good at;
but often times they seem too rehearsed, disingenuous and preacher like - this
one felt pretty much that same way.

Now Clinton on the other hand, can give a shoot from the hip speech
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Old 11-07-2012, 12:09 AM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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It amazes me that the Democrats are always painted as the big spenders, when it BOTH!!!
Yeah they BOTH do it pretty equally. The Democrats "tax and spend" and the Republicans "borrow and spend".

Ken
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Old 11-07-2012, 12:14 AM
 
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Meh. This is one thing President Obama seems to be good at;
but often times they seem too rehearsed, disingenuous and preacher like - this
one felt pretty much that same way.

Now Clinton on the other hand, can give a shoot from the hip speech

Blah blah blah....

We know that once the next Democrat comes along you're suddenly going to love Obama so that you can seem "balanced," so please, spare us...
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Old 11-07-2012, 12:17 AM
 
Location: New York City
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This is a truly historic election. Almost as important as 2008. The first lesbian senator and the first direct electoral gains for gay marriage. A repudiation of Akin and the his ilk. Social issues won big.
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Old 11-07-2012, 12:19 AM
 
Location: Palo Alto
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Yeah they BOTH do it pretty equally. The Democrats "tax and spend" and the Republicans "borrow and spend".

Ken
I wouldn't have a problem if Obama had taxed and spent. He lowered rates more than Bush and spent twice as fast.
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Old 11-07-2012, 12:23 AM
 
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I wouldn't have a problem if Obama had taxed and spent. He lowered rates more than Bush and spent twice as fast.

So you would be ok with a deficit reduction plan that included BOTH tax hikes and spending cuts?
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Old 11-07-2012, 12:24 AM
 
Location: Pluto's Home Town
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Ok Mittens...

BUH-BYE!!

Don't worry for him everybody, he still has a car elevator and Ann to come home to.
Who knows, he might just now be saying "Ann....elevate me!"
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