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Organizing a State wide campaign that was against Grass Roots in the State of Virginia was probably not Cantor's best political move. IF he had not done this one thing - he would probably still be the Majority Leader. When Political Elites decide to actively fight against citizens - it almost never can be a good move. Cantor tried to put his own supporters into Republican leadership positions in Districts all over Virginia - he lost 4 out of 5 Districts and all of them mobilized against him in his own District to un-seat him.
An astute point. Cantor divorced himself from the people who had given him the opportunity to become a Political Elite. Per Maddow tonight, Cantor's approval ratings in his district - a disastrous 30%. Disapproval rating - 60%. Guess that loss is not a surprise, after all.
Obama is not deporting illegals. Recently he reassured them that it's just those stopped at the border that are being counted as deportations. Thousands of Central Americans are coming over every day, and they are not being deported at all.
Oh, yes he is!
At a much higher rate than Bush or any other recten president.
Here is a quote from Politifacts:
"If you instead compare the two presidents’ monthly averages, it works out to 32,886 for Obama and 20,964 for Bush, putting Obama clearly in the lead. Bill Clinton is far behind with 869,676 total and 9,059 per month. All previous occupants of the White House going back to 1892 fell well short of the level of the three most recent presidents."
While Obama has not topped Bush yet in total numbers, he still has two years to go.
Organizing a State wide campaign that was against Grass Roots in the State of Virginia was probably not Cantor's best political move. IF he had not done this one thing - he would probably still be the Majority Leader. When Political Elites decide to actively fight against citizens - it almost never can be a good move. Cantor tried to put his own supporters into Republican leadership positions in Districts all over Virginia - he lost 4 out of 5 Districts and all of them mobilized against him in his own District to un-seat him.
All that said - he gave a very gracious speech this afternoon and declined to "analyze" the results of the election. He was also clear that he (supposedly) supports the "Tea Party".
This is essentially over except to see who takes his place - I'm going out on a limb and saying it will be Jeb Hensarling of Texas. Put it in your Memory Book.
Consideing what happened last year by nominating Cuccinelli and Jackson, I don't think Cantor was that off base in the fight for thee party on the statewide level. However, what might be better for the state as a whole might not be as good for a district and vice versa. Also, the fact Cantor didn't do any real campaigning I think hurt him bigtime. He spent the $$, but didn't do the meet and greet style campaigning which is what really helps in that type of election. That was basically exactly the opposite of what Graham did. Cantor is a bit further to the right than Graham, who was initially thought of potentially vulnerable in a Primary, but Graham did that style of campaigning, and got out there. Doing that pretty much stopped any tea party momentum to oust him dead in the tracks.
Oh, yes he is!
At a much higher rate than Bush or any other recten president.
Here is a quote from Politifacts:
"If you instead compare the two presidents’ monthly averages, it works out to 32,886 for Obama and 20,964 for Bush, putting Obama clearly in the lead. Bill Clinton is far behind with 869,676 total and 9,059 per month. All previous occupants of the White House going back to 1892 fell well short of the level of the three most recent presidents."
While Obama has not topped Bush yet in total numbers, he still has two years to go.
Very simple. The Tea Party is for limited government, ie less spending on government programs except the military. Also less regulation of our personal liberties by the EPA, Obamacare, executive actions, legislating from the bench. We also believe in law and order. If there is a law it should be enforced. If there is no law one needs to be passed through the process outlined in the Constitution. Very radical stuff huh?
Tea Party is for limited government - isn't that the same BS we've been hearing since Reagan? Check.
Less spending on government programs except the military - sounds like standard GOP fare. Check.
Less regulations by the EPA, E.O.'s - Again, standard GOP fare. Check.
Legislating from the bench - been hearing that for a long time from Republicans, I believe the term is activist judges? Check.
Now Obama care is a new one, except they don't remember that it was their own plan to begin with, but Hillary decided to "hijack" it, then Obama. So, the GOP was for it before they were against it (sounds like shades of Ron Paul, hmm ). Check.
We believe in law and order - Well, so do Democrats. But, again and again, standard GOP fare. Check.
So, rikoshaprl, I need to ask again. Keeping my above post in mind, can you tell me what the difference is between a tea partier and an establishment Republican, other than the fact that the tea partier is more likely to be someone who believes in legitimate rape, and thinks "Negroes" were better off as slaves?
The Koch Bros run Tea Party do more damage to Republicans than the Dems do. Cannibalism in action.
I find it hilarious, that now 8 years after the TEA Party first got a label, many are still out of touch, with who and what the Tea Party is.
Koch is money, no different than Warren Buffet, George Soros, Bill Gates, money.
Money controlling America The shadow government everyone talks about, but cannot figure out who it is.
Everything the Tea Party is against.
Audit and then END the FED.
I find it hilarious, that now 8 years after the TEA Party first got a label, many are still out of touch, with who and what the Tea Party is.
Koch is money, no different than Warren Buffet, George Soros, Bill Gates, money.
Money controlling America The shadow government everyone talks about, but cannot figure out who it is.
Everything the Tea Party is against.
Audit and then END the FED.
What the Tea Party started out as, is not what the Tea Party has morphed into.
Who said that? It's been pretty obvious to many of us that the GOP was going to regret embracing the Tea Party. It's like the fable of the scorpion and the turtle--the TP is going to take down the party that supports them. They just can't help themselves.
Pass the popcorn.
This helps the GOP. It may hurt the current leadership but it helps the party.
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