Dave Brat Runs A $500,000 Program To Push Ayn Rand's Ideas At College (ethic, thought)

[Frank DeForrest]

Originally Posted by urbanlife78

Yeah, someone can totally get their degree from YouTube University these days.

Never heard of the Kahn Academy or TED ?That too bad.
Part of the crowd that believes only tax funded education centers are credible.

[urbanlife78]

Originally Posted by petch751

Notice how urban life ignored

Barack Obama: Irrational self-interest and government dependence.

Because that is his opinion, no point in trying to change somwkne'someone's opinion that is obviously already set.

[petch751]

Originally Posted by Hyperthetic

None of the characters in Atlas Shrugged were seeking "monetary success" as a primary motivator or goal.

They weren't interested in "all terrain vehicles" or astro-turf lawns.

They also ignored her philosophy that says "the idea that no person is any other person’s slave."

[urbanlife78]

Originally Posted by Hyperthetic

None of the characters in Atlas Shrugged were seeking monetary success as a primary motivator or goal.

Then you didn't properly read the book, or understand what metaphors are.

[urbanlife78]

Originally Posted by Frank DeForrest

Never heard of the Kahn Academy or TED ?That too bad.
Part of the crowd that believes only tax funded education centers are credible.

I have heard of both, neither I would put on a resume when asked for education credentials.

[Rambler123]

Originally Posted by petch751

So you have no problem with takers?

My problem is with lunatics defining themselves as "completely self-made men" - as if they fed themselves when infants, built the roads they drive on, educated their teachers, and so on - who then turn around and define everyone they don't like as "takers" to justify screwing them over. Yes, I have a big problem with that behavior, and that is what you get when people take Rand seriously.

All of these self-proclaimed "makers" are believes in the Just World Fallacy and don't have wit enough to realize the role luck plays in life or humility enough to realize how other people helped them get to where they are today. No... in their crack-pot Randian vision, they are "makers" and "self-made men" - but anyone who's beneath them or who's had a rough time of it is a "taker" and thus deserves nothing.

Rand's philosophy is literally an attempt to rationally justify selfish behavior - even she basically admitted to that - and I don't see how anyone can consider such a mindset acceptable. I find it doubly ironic that right-wing extremist who claim to be "Christian" support Ayn Rand since not only did she despise religion, there is no way to reconcile her "being selfish is good" philosophy with proper Christian morality.

[toryturner]

Originally Posted by urbanlife78

Nothing about discussing her work is offensive. I read her books in college.

So why object to someone backing the introduction of her philosophy into the classroom?

[urbanlife78]

Originally Posted by petch751

They also ignored her philosophy that says "the idea that no person is any other person’s slave."

Do you think you are a slave now? Or that anyone is trying to put you into slavery?

[petch751]

Originally Posted by urbanlife78

Then you didn't properly read the book, or understand what metaphors are.

It's what makes you happy. You just don't like the "personal responsibility" part of her philosophy. Now if she believed in dependency you would be all for her philosophy.

"The virtues of her philosophy are principled policies based on rational assessment: rationality, productiveness, honesty, integrity, independence, justice, and pride."

"As a youth, she had been repelled by the communists’ political program."

[urbanlife78]

Originally Posted by toryturner

So why object to someone backing the introduction of her philosophy into the classroom?

When have I ever said I object to Ayn Rand books being read and discussed in a classroom? All I have done is given my opinion on the selfishness of Rand'Band's philosophy.