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Old 02-01-2015, 06:28 AM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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A contract is a business endeavor/agreement. It's not what marriage is. It is not a crime to enter into an interracial union nor should it be. Same sex marriage is entirely different. I don't have a problem with them having a civil union. I just object to it being called a "traditional" marriage.
Ok. I won't call my marriage a "traditional marriage" I will just call it a marriage.
Legally marriage is just a contract, what ever religious, or personal meaning a couple attach to their personal relationship is their and theirs alone.
As for the civil union vs marriage thing, no one owns the word marriage. So I can call my legal civil marriage what ever I choose.
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Old 02-01-2015, 08:18 AM
 
Location: a nation with hope
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There are a number of people attempting to hijack this thread. This is about Mitt Romney's decision not to run in 2016.

It is NOT about same sex marriage, homosexuality, equal rights for gays or debate about whether they were born that way. We've had quite enough of those topics, so if you want to discuss that, find the latest thread and go at it. Seems some of you are so rabid about the subject you have to turn everything in that direction.
Give it a rest.

Let's get back to Mitt, if there's more to be said about it.
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Old 02-01-2015, 08:20 AM
 
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The real story that was Mitt was going to run at all. Had he done so, he would have washed out in the early stages. Mitt's day has passed. It's time for him to get a new hobby,
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Old 02-01-2015, 08:54 AM
 
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The real story that was Mitt was going to run at all. Had he done so, he would have washed out in the early stages. Mitt's day has passed. It's time for him to get a new hobby,
Running for the presidency is a hobby?
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Old 02-01-2015, 10:21 AM
 
Location: NJ
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Correct, veneficus. Dems Blue Wall plus new members Va and NM get you within one swing state of the WH.

The itty bitty Red Wall leaves the GOP still needing about 90-100 electoral votes, and pretty much having to run the table.

All the Dems need to do, literally, is to spend time and money in every swing state, and the GOP is powerless to counter that, realistically. If we view , as we should, true swing states as being 50/50 coin tosses, odds of winning any 1 is 50%. Odds of going 10 for 10 is 2 to the tenth power or 1 in 1,024.
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Old 02-01-2015, 11:00 AM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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I see Mitt jumping back into the race...probably September or October.
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Old 02-01-2015, 11:45 AM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Correct, veneficus. Dems Blue Wall plus new members Va and NM get you within one swing state of the WH.

The itty bitty Red Wall leaves the GOP still needing about 90-100 electoral votes, and pretty much having to run the table.

All the Dems need to do, literally, is to spend time and money in every swing state, and the GOP is powerless to counter that, realistically. If we view , as we should, true swing states as being 50/50 coin tosses, odds of winning any 1 is 50%. Odds of going 10 for 10 is 2 to the tenth power or 1 in 1,024.
The president is an election for a person, not a party.

I know pretending otherwise makes you feel good, but that doesn't make it true.
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Old 02-01-2015, 11:46 AM
 
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Running for the presidency is a hobby?
It is for some people. I'm happy to see Mitt isn't going to make it his.
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Old 02-01-2015, 12:02 PM
 
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The president is an election for a person, not a party.

I know pretending otherwise makes you feel good, but that doesn't make it true.
bobtn thinks that everyone who's ever voted Democrat will always vote Democrat no matter what happens, so long as it's a Presidential year. I give folks more credit, even Democrats.
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Old 02-01-2015, 12:13 PM
 
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Bwa-hah-hah-hah-hah! He got the Ross Perot treatment.

I note that he mentioned stepping aside for a "newcomer". Hmm. JEB! is not exactly a "newcomer", but then again, he is for a Presidential run. Nonetheless, Romney didn't exactly endorse him or throw his support behind him.

This is an interesting article, not because of "bad behavior", but because most people contacted for the article clammed up tighter than a tick.

Revisiting Jeb Bush’s Bad Behavior at Andover | Vanity Fair
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