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Old 04-30-2015, 01:28 PM
 
Location: Tennessee
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It won't happen because the Republicans have choices. The Dems are stuck with Hillary also known as Jeb's honorary sister-in-law seeing as how Bill is "the brother from another mother."

The conservative Republicans will just stay home if Jeb is the candidate handing the election to Hillary...which is why Dems are rah! rah! rah! for Bush and some of the Republican Machine is trying to sell us on Rubio.

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Old 04-30-2015, 05:04 PM
 
Location: Planet Telex
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That last name of his is going to be a problem for a lot of people to get past. Same can be said of Hillary though.
True, but voters associate the name "Bush" with economic turmoil. I don't think Clinton has anywhere near the bad rep, even with Hillary's flaws.
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Old 04-30-2015, 06:00 PM
 
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newtoks"If you are competing with illegal immigrants for jobs, you have made some seriously bad life choices. If an American citizen born with all the privileges and access to free public education that it comes with is whining about the difficulty of finding work as a day laborer, crop picker, dishwasher or lawn mower it is hard to feel bad for them."

Amen. If an illegal can be the better choice for an employer, the citizen left out lacks First World skills.
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Old 04-30-2015, 06:27 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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If Jeb Bush will go head to head against the tea party republicans and finally solve the immigration problem, he'll get my vote and probably enough votes to beat Hillary.
What say you?

[i]Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush declared Wednesday that 11 million immigrants in the country illegally should have an opportunity to stay,]

Jeb is nuts.


If he thinks that a Republican is going to be able to get the lion's share of these 11 million after they complete the road to citizenship, he deserves to lose.

Our currently illegal residents are basically already committed to a liberal program to provide them with social programs.

Unless, of course, the Republicans embrace the welfare state and start making promises as well.
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Old 04-30-2015, 07:46 PM
 
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Jeb is nuts.


If he thinks that a Republican is going to be able to get the lion's share of these 11 million after they complete the road to citizenship, he deserves to lose.

Our currently illegal residents are basically already committed to a liberal program to provide them with social programs.

Unless, of course, the Republicans embrace the welfare state and start making promises as well.
I think his views are more based on ethnic ties via his Mexican wife. You are correct though he's nuts if he thinks that the GOP will gain more of the Hispanic vote now or in the future by thumbing his nose at our immigration laws for them. The Democrats are already doing it plus they are already a socialistic party so what would be the difference?
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Old 04-30-2015, 07:55 PM
 
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So are you conceding 73% of the Latino vote forever? If so, that concludes the possibility of a GOP POTUS. It creates a 5 million vote deficit right from the start, based on 12 mill Latino voters.

With 1 million more reaching 18 annually.
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Old 04-30-2015, 07:59 PM
 
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Wouldn't vote for any of the Republican nut jobs. Don't encourage them!
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Old 04-30-2015, 08:00 PM
 
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He looks better than Hillary every day, but that's not tough to do.
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Old 04-30-2015, 08:01 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Jeb is nuts.


If he thinks that a Republican is going to be able to get the lion's share of these 11 million after they complete the road to citizenship, he deserves to lose.

Our currently illegal residents are basically already committed to a liberal program to provide them with social programs.

Unless, of course, the Republicans embrace the welfare state and start making promises as well.
His brother got the majority of the Hispanic vote when he ran.
His brother also won after their father was booted out after one term. So forget about the Bush Name being a detriment.

The Hispanic issue is all one big ball of wax. It's the 11 million who are living here and have been living here for a long time in the shadows. It's the anchor babies. It's the legal hispanics who are citizens and rapidly becoming one of the most potent voter blocks in the nation. The last Bush got a bunch of republicans on board with comprehensive immigration reform when he was president but the right wing killed it.
Jeb Bush is announcing his stance early and daring the rest of the republican field to respond. It's a deliberate strategy.
I wouldn't expect you or the legions of right wing conservatives who swarm this board to see the logic to his move.
Mark my words. Before the primaries are over, the only people left standing will be the one's from both parties who promise comprehensive immigration reform that includes the entire Hispanic issue.
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Old 04-30-2015, 08:03 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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So are you conceding 73% of the Latino vote forever? If so, that concludes the possibility of a GOP POTUS. It creates a 5 million vote deficit right from the start, based on 12 mill Latino voters.

With 1 million more reaching 18 annually.

If the Republicans decide to embrace the welfare state and higher taxes for the wealthy,don't you think they'll be able to compete for the newly made citizens?
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