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Amen, mohawkx, simply because this is a math issue. 270 is a math issue. The path to 270 means winning states the RW base staunchly disagrees with, but w/o appealing to them, those base states the GOP held for JM and Mittens mean NOTHING in a POTUS race..
The Tea Party clowns still don't get it ... the demographics have changed, these people are not going go away ... and we can't deport 20 million people (IMO the number is much higher than decades old 12 million figure - they were throwing that number around back in 2005 and it was already outdated then). These people have natural born US citizen kids who eventually turn 18 and can vote ... do you really think that they will vote for us if we tell them we want to deport half their family? We have to change, we have to accept the changing demographics. We will never see another GOP president unless we win at least 40% of the Hispanic vote - and that is the absolute minimum, we would likely need 45-50% for a real chance.
Jeb Bush is not only our best chance at beating Hillary, he's our ONLY chance. If he does not win GOP the nomination we have a 100% chance of President Hillary Rodham Clinton come January 2017, with Bush we can cut that down to 50/50 ... a fighting chance.
No, I Like Spam, Comprehensive Reform would make inroads amongst the 73%. The reality was that was the area with the biggest chasm in positions in '12, and we saw the Latino response..big-time.
If the Republicans decide to embrace the welfare state and higher taxes for the wealthy,don't you think they'll be able to compete for the newly made citizens?
Most Hispanic-American voters (not illegals) are mostly only interested in the illegal immigration issue. Should any politician sacrifice our laws for a special interest group just for votes? Is this the new American way?
Mark my words. Before the primaries are over, the only people left standing will be the one's from both parties who promise comprehensive immigration reform that includes the entire Hispanic issue.
You're probably right, the Republican establishment is firmly in favor of amnesty.
And if one of the Bushes isn't nominated, it will be someone else that is of that group.
But I don't see Jeb winning, or any other moderate Republican coming out victorious and sweeping the hispanic vote on the way to victory.
Amnesty is only part of it, providing new social services for these millions of new people is something that the Republicans just aren't prepared to do in 2016. The Democrats are, regardless of whether they nominate Mrs. Clinton, Vice President Biden or whomever.
No, I Like Spam, Comprehensive Reform would make inroads amongst the 73%. The reality was that was the area with the biggest chasm in positions in '12, and we saw the Latino response..big-time.
We'll probably find out soon enough, the Republicans are as likely as not to nominate a pro-amnesty candidate in 2016- the most obvious choice being Mr. Bush.
Win or lose, we can analyze the election results from Spanish Harlem and East LA, and see if Jeb is able to carry those hispanic bellweather precincts.
Sweeping is most likely not needed yet. Latino % in the 40s, though, is a prereq, especially added to overall dismal GOP showing with non-whites and with single women. And this POTUS election we can expect GOP share of LGBT to be even weaker than previous cycles, given the rhetoric of many of their candidates.
Yet is underlined since when we add 1 mill 18 year old Latinos annually, just via citizens already here, sweeping that group up the road will be a GOP prereq for truly contending for POTUS.
You're probably right, the Republican establishment is firmly in favor of amnesty.
And if one of the Bushes isn't nominated, it will be someone else that is of that group.
But I don't see Jeb winning, or any other moderate Republican coming out victorious and sweeping the hispanic vote on the way to victory.
Amnesty is only part of it, providing new social services for these millions of new people is something that the Republicans just aren't prepared to do in 2016. The Democrats are, regardless of whether they nominate Mrs. Clinton, Vice President Biden or whomever.
Most GOP'ers don't want another amnesty cloaked as "reform" and rightly so! The question remains why do so many Hispanics think their ethnic group should be above our immigration laws and that blackmailing our politicians for votes to get their way is the right thing to do? The pro-illegals try to fool the GOP into thinking that if they cave into this selfishness that they will gain the Hispanic vote. Nothing could be further from the truth. They are set in the Democrat camp already whom are already promising amnesty.
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