Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies > Elections
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
View Poll Results: Does this ad change your mind?
I'm a liberal and I no longer support Trump 0 0%
I'm a liberal and I now support Trump 4 13.33%
I'm a conservative and I no longer support Trump 1 3.33%
I'm a conservative and I now support Trump 17 56.67%
Other 8 26.67%
Voters: 30. You may not vote on this poll

Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 09-01-2015, 07:10 PM
 
7,413 posts, read 6,230,000 times
Reputation: 6665

Advertisements


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgKW...yer_detailpage

Does this change your mind about Trump (both those who support him, and who don't).
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 09-01-2015, 07:18 PM
 
21,989 posts, read 15,716,760 times
Reputation: 12943
I'm a liberal that finds the GOP supporting Trump funny.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-01-2015, 07:51 PM
 
Location: Eastern Long Island
1,280 posts, read 4,934,195 times
Reputation: 777
Everyone selectively forgets, Trump is not a career politician, he's a rich guy that has opinions. I'm ok with people changing their opinion or position. In fact that's a right I hold near and dear as an American. As someone that was a die hard Republican from a very young age, I'm really tired of the belief system that it's all or nothing with each party. I like things from both parties, neither are completely wrong or bad.
I'm glad the artist formally known as "just another Bush" opened this can of whoop *ss on himself.
There must be at least 300 hours of him and/ or his family members flip flopping on positions available on YouTube today! BTW, not when being interviewed as a citizen ( as mr trump was here) but while holding state and federal office. How many times did W talk in complete friggin circles while standing IN the Oval Office?
I don't dislike "Jeb" but I'm actually going to get my popcorn ready for the shat show that's about to start now!
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-01-2015, 08:46 PM
 
33,387 posts, read 34,847,766 times
Reputation: 20030
bush digging up stuff from 1999. in politics that is ancient history. opinions change, people change.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-01-2015, 09:11 PM
 
Location: Montgomery County, PA
16,569 posts, read 15,278,266 times
Reputation: 14591
2016 marks the death of labels. For decades they have toyed with us and appealed to our “conservative” side but when elected we never heard from them again. McCain became a huge conservative two weeks before election. This time around people don’t care about labels so you can loop Trump’s conversion, which was almost 20 years ago, and it won’t make a difference. What he can do now is important.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-01-2015, 10:28 PM
 
13,711 posts, read 9,235,353 times
Reputation: 9845
Is Jeb Bush's campaign at all familiar with the concept of attack ads? You know, the part about making your opponent look bad?!

I can't believe it, this "attack" ad actually makes the subject looks good. It shows him being composed and answering questions thoughtfully. WTF?

No need to overthink this: just grab some footage of him jarring with Rosie O'Donnell, wrestling in WWE, making hyperbole on Apprentice; and intercut with Gary Busey being lunatic. Finishes off with Trump saying he'll make Mexico pays for the wall and cut to Busey saying something crazy. Done.
.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-01-2015, 10:37 PM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
18,782 posts, read 17,364,082 times
Reputation: 7990
Quote:
Originally Posted by rbohm View Post
bush digging up stuff from 1999. in politics that is ancient history. opinions change, people change.
Trump would have been about 53 in 1999. By age 53 most people have formed pretty definite opinions, especially on things like abortion and gun control. It's possible that he had a genuine change of mind, but it's also possible that he is just saying what he needs to say to stay afloat in the GOP primaries.

In a case like this you can only guess. Mitt Romney went through similar changes, but persuaded many conservatives that it was genuine in his 2012 CPAC speech. Trump hasn't said anything yet to persuade me that he's not just saying what he needs to say to stay afloat in the GOP primaries.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-01-2015, 10:39 PM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
18,782 posts, read 17,364,082 times
Reputation: 7990
As for the poll, the ad (excellent, btw) does not change my mind. I was already aware of all of this, but props to Jeb Bush for working to make more people aware.

edit: note to OP--next time choose the 'public poll' option when making a poll like this. This allows everyone to see which poster cast which vote. Otherwise you will get a bunch of libs responding to "I'm conservative and support Trump," making the results worthless.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-02-2015, 01:40 AM
 
52,431 posts, read 26,636,151 times
Reputation: 21097
People who still label themselves and everything else as either liberal or conservative, are living in delusion land by thinking these terms have any real meaning. They don't.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-02-2015, 01:51 AM
 
9,418 posts, read 13,500,168 times
Reputation: 10305
Quote:
Originally Posted by daylux View Post

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgKW...yer_detailpage

Does this change your mind about Trump (both those who support him, and who don't).
Made me laugh. I don't support him but this is so chopped up I can't take it seriously.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies > Elections

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 03:03 PM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top