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Old 02-10-2016, 07:13 PM
 
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What kills me is how apparently, blacks, especially those in the south are die hard Clinton supporters. LOL Why? What in the hell has she done for you?

Im no socialist, but if there's anyone that is at least honest and has walked the walk, it's Bernie. Why you would choose a lying, scam artist, vastly wealthy for doing nothing jerk like Hillary is just astonishing. Some times the world truly makes no sense.
He has done close to zero campaigning among southern blacks or even given many interviews in national black-oriented media outlets, so most folks don't even know who he is. When he starts to actually try he might be able to move the needle, especially now that he's been in the news constantly for a couple of weeks now.

 
Old 02-11-2016, 05:51 AM
 
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You voted for Romney? After he threatened to do away with Big Bird?
getting rid of Big Bird was better than seeing our medical costs go up because of Obamacare.
 
Old 02-11-2016, 05:55 AM
 
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What kills me is how apparently, blacks, especially those in the south are die hard Clinton supporters. LOL Why? What in the hell has she done for you?

Im no socialist, but if there's anyone that is at least honest and has walked the walk, it's Bernie. Why you would choose a lying, scam artist, vastly wealthy for doing nothing jerk like Hillary is just astonishing. Some times the world truly makes no sense.
Bernie is an old white liberal from an all white state. Not saying I don't agree with you, but black voters view the clintons very favorably. Remember, the clintons are southerners after all.
 
Old 02-11-2016, 06:10 AM
 
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Bernie is an old white liberal from an all white state. Not saying I don't agree with you, but black voters view the clintons very favorably. Remember, the clintons are southerners after all.
It's interesting because Clinton is no spring chicken either. And the consequences of Clinton politics like NAFTA, minimum sentencing, welfare reform and bank deregulation were severe for the African American community.

What's interesting is to see what African Americans in South Carolina say about Bernie. In polling, a third of AAs believe Sanders will reward his wealthy donors once in office. There is quite a bit of misinformation floating around.
 
Old 02-11-2016, 07:29 AM
 
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Average of the 4 major National Pollster averages as of February 10th, 2016 (FiveThirtyEight Average, HuffPost Pollster Model, RealClear Politics Average, 270 to Win Average)
50.6% - Hillary Clinton
36.5% - Bernie Sanders
13.0% - Others / Undecided
 
Old 02-11-2016, 08:54 AM
 
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You should do a little Clinton biography research. Hillary has been advocating for the rights of poor people and minorities since she was in high school. A case might be made that she lost her way and her focus in the past several years, but the ties that bind are deep and lasting. You can be thankful that black people have the good sense to stick with her. Otherwise, we might end up with Trump or Sanders - men who have done nothing for America and would likely damage our nation were they to win.
Research will show that "talk is cheap" as she understands how to keep that democrat plantation voting for her.

i.e. She did nothing for minorities when she was US Senator except push for globalization & free trade that has moved millions of jobs overseas. And she is taking campaign money from the two largest prison corporations in the USA which make profits from keeping, mostly minorities, locked up. They of course are against reforming the laws so people are tossed in jail on simple possession charges.

If you think that it good for minorities, then you might want to re-examine your research.
 
Old 02-11-2016, 10:08 AM
 
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You should do a little Clinton biography research. Hillary has been advocating for the rights of poor people and minorities since she was in high school. A case might be made that she lost her way and her focus in the past several years, but the ties that bind are deep and lasting. You can be thankful that black people have the good sense to stick with her. Otherwise, we might end up with Trump or Sanders - men who have done nothing for America and would likely damage our nation were they to win.
Well put (or perhaps I think so, because I agree). Especially to those who make comments about how Obama or Hillary or whichever progressive has "done nothing," you've got to wonder what they really know about anything...

I also think we sometimes forget that for the most part we are choosing from what options are available, some might describe as the "least of evils." I don't know how to measure how much the Clintons have done for the poor or minorities, but given what choices the poor and minorities have had to choose from, what are they going to do, vote for a Republican? Hardly...
 
Old 02-12-2016, 03:30 PM
 
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Well put (or perhaps I think so, because I agree). Especially to those who make comments about how Obama or Hillary or whichever progressive has "done nothing," you've got to wonder what they really know about anything...

I also think we sometimes forget that for the most part we are choosing from what options are available, some might describe as the "least of evils." I don't know how to measure how much the Clintons have done for the poor or minorities, but given what choices the poor and minorities have had to choose from, what are they going to do, vote for a Republican? Hardly...
So basically, you have no clue what they have done, but you expect them to vote dem.....I wonder why?
 
Old 02-12-2016, 03:45 PM
 
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So basically, you have no clue what they have done, but you expect them to vote dem.....I wonder why?
Yet another straw man argument? Are you not able to avoid these ridiculous tactics of yours?

How do you go from my comment to concluding that "basically I have no clue?"

Might say you have no clue how to make an argument one way or another, and no doubt my comment would be more true than yours, but that's something of an immature game, wouldn't you agree about that at least?
 
Old 02-12-2016, 04:26 PM
 
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