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Old 01-14-2016, 06:09 AM
 
Location: Pyongjang
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Gravis says Hillary up 21. Des Moines says up 2 in IA. Wtf?

 
Old 01-14-2016, 07:04 AM
 
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Gravis says Hillary up 21. Des Moines says up 2 in IA. Wtf?
Gravis is a huge outlier. Here is the RCP poll average (6 polls).

Could this Gravis poll be more of a paid marketing ad by the Hillary Clinton campaign? It is quite an oafish one if it is.

Without that poll in it, the average margin is Clinton 44.8, Sanders 44.2, which is well within the margin of error. This race is a dead heat with all the momentum behind Sanders at just the right time.
 
Old 01-14-2016, 07:40 AM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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Gravis is a huge outlier. Here is the RCP poll average (6 polls).

Could this Gravis poll be more of a paid marketing ad by the Hillary Clinton campaign? It is quite an oafish one if it is.

Without that poll in it, the average margin is Clinton 44.8, Sanders 44.2, which is well within the margin of error. This race is a dead heat with all the momentum behind Sanders at just the right time.

I doubt it, Gravis is not exactly known for being the most accurate pollster, so its likely just a bad result. The company is also a Republican Consulting firm.
 
Old 01-14-2016, 02:33 PM
 
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Hillary Clinton’s national lead is slipping faster in 2016 than it did in 2008

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...4066&tid=ss_tw
 
Old 01-15-2016, 04:27 AM
 
Location: Swiftwater, PA
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Hillary Clinton’s national lead is slipping faster in 2016 than it did in 2008

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...4066&tid=ss_tw

The kicker is that is being reported by MSN and other 'liberal' media: Hillary Clinton. So, I believe that her true fall might even be worse or they know something that we don't know?
 
Old 01-15-2016, 06:56 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Hillary Clinton’s national lead is slipping faster in 2016 than it did in 2008

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...4066&tid=ss_tw
I have been saying for months this would happen in January leading up to the elections.
 
Old 01-17-2016, 12:38 AM
 
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I think the party needs to unite around Clinton, and fast. I don't discount Debbie Wasserman-Schultz pulling a Tonya Harding on Bernie sanders...
 
Old 01-17-2016, 12:45 AM
 
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I think the party needs to unite around Clinton, and fast. .
I disagree. The dialogue between Clinton and Sanders will make us stronger and better.
I've voted for every Democrat presidential candidate since 1968. The difference between Clinton and Sanders is insignificant compared to every other campaign in my lifetime. I've never known the Democrat party to be as united as it is now.
 
Old 01-17-2016, 05:53 AM
 
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I think the party needs to unite around Clinton, and fast. I don't discount Debbie Wasserman-Schultz pulling a Tonya Harding on Bernie sanders...
Why? Best way to drive even more Democrats out of the party is for the party to force bad candidates on them. BTW, that loon Debbie Wasserman-Schultz isn't going to do anything unless commanded by the Clintons. Given the way she completely mishandled that DNC database issue where they cut Bernie off, and the backlash that caused, I sure that Hillary has told her to go sit in a closet.
 
Old 01-17-2016, 09:54 AM
 
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"Hillary Clinton leads rival Bernie Sanders by 25 points nationally ahead of Sunday's final Democratic debate and the all-important Iowa caucuses, according to the latest results from the new NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll."

Poll: Clinton Holds 25-Point National Lead Over Sanders - NBC News
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