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New flash: we are already paying for health care. It is not a new program. You pay an insurer. Your employers plan is part of your compensation package. It is just a matter or where the money comes from and how efficient an NHS would be versus the current private insurer system we have. Worldwide experience in dozens of countries suggest that we would be paying significantly less in an NHS than we do now. I haven't looked at Sanders plan and won't because Sander is not going to be President. But it is high time that we get for profit insurance companies out of our health care delivery system.
New flash: we are already paying for health care. It is not a new program. You pay an insurer. Your employers plan is part of your compensation package. It is just a matter or where the money comes from and how efficient an NHS would be versus the current private insurer system we have. Worldwide experience in dozens of countries suggest that we would be paying significantly less in an NHS than we do now. I haven't looked at Sanders plan and won't because Sander is not going to be President. But it is high time that we get for profit insurance companies out of our health care delivery system.
We are capatlists, and this healthcare abortion is making someone lots of money.
If people dont like it, dont buy into it, pay cash and pay your fine/tax at the end of the year. And socialized medicine isnt free, as portrayed in EUROPE.
Bernie explains he will pay for it, my question is why is it bad to not pay for health care but not for wars?
OMG! Give it a rest. One has nothing to do with the other. Health care is not a right.
Just because you have found some fellow travelers that will chant your silly slogans doesn't make it true.
We're out here and we don't like your motives. Hope this helps.
Well with any luck, Sanders can actually turn that Obamacare into Medicaid for all. Then you'll really lose your marbles. The fact that you can write such a ridiculous thing, like Trump knows ANYTHING about healthcare for the little people, tells me everything I need to know about you. Just another Trump supporter driving a Kia.
My question is, will people with cancer get the treatment they get now under private insurance? Will people be waiting years to get things like knee replacement surgery because it's not considered life threatening, as my British friend's father had to do? Even in the below article defending the British healthcare system, it shows the differences of health outcomes between the United States and Great Britain. More people survive cancer here than they do there.
Breast cancer kills 46% of its targets in Britain, compared with 25% in the US; prostate cancer kills 57% of the Britons it strikes, compared with 25% of American victims; Britain's heart attack fatality rate was 19.5% higher than America's in 2005 – Pacific Research Institute, a San Francisco-based thinktank
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Breast cancer does claim more lives, proportionally, here than in the US. According to the 2002 Globocan database run by the World Health Organisation's cancer advisers, 19.2 of every 100,000 Americans die of the disease, but 24.3 per 100,000 here die. On prostate cancer, a Lancet Oncology global study last year found that 91.9% of Americans with the disease were still alive after five years compared to just 51.1% in the UK. With heart attacks, 40% of Britons who suffer one die from it compared to 38% in the States – nowhere near the difference claimed.
That doesn't matter where my Mom and her husband are. Medicare patients (no matter the plan) aren't given appointments unless they pay a flat annual concierge fee (which is not reimbursed by Medicare) and are on the concierge list.
There is nothing like that around here. Virtually every doc I had on my employer plan also accepts Medicare (with no added fees). Most people I know, though, actually have Medicare Advantage HMOs or supplements rather than plain Medicare. That adds a little to the cost each month. Anyway, if "Medicare for Everyone" was the national health plan, they would not have much choice.
New flash: we are already paying for health care. It is not a new program. You pay an insurer. Your employers plan is part of your compensation package. It is just a matter or where the money comes from and how efficient an NHS would be versus the current private insurer system we have. Worldwide experience in dozens of countries suggest that we would be paying significantly less in an NHS than we do now. I haven't looked at Sanders plan and won't because Sander is not going to be President. But it is high time that we get for profit insurance companies out of our health care delivery system.
Not true. The free market based system is the most efficient and the most free. Socialism is dead.
OMG! Give it a rest. One has nothing to do with the other. Health care is not a right.
Just because you have found some fellow travelers that will chant your silly slogans doesn't make it true.
We're out here and we don't like your motives. Hope this helps.
So war is a right and health care is not. Strange.
My question is, will people with cancer get the treatment they get now under private insurance? Will people be waiting years to get things like knee replacement surgery because it's not considered life threatening, as my British friend's father had to do? Even in the below article defending the British healthcare system, it shows the differences of health outcomes between the United States and Great Britain. More people survive cancer here than they do there.
I approached this very subject in another thread and came armed with data and legitimate links demonstrating the unfortunate side effect of socialized healthcare in Canada, the UK, and Australia. Each country has alliances set up to track wait times now. Many links in the last few pages of this thread.
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