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I watched the town hall event last night with Hillary and Bernie. For the record I do think Bernie probably is one of the more honest politicians running. Probably cares more for the average American than most too. I just can't agree with his policies as they seem to extreme.
Case and point healthcare. A gentlemen asked about being middle class and having his taxes raised to pay for healthcare. Bernie responded how yes his taxes would rise but he'd save money with his health care plan overall.
So by that logic it seems like if you're somebody who eats healthy, stays active, avoids dangerous foods or activities statistically you will not go to the doctor as much. That's a fact. People who take care of themselves go to the doctor less.
So isn't that penalizing the people who live life taking care of themselves etc..? A lot of people take care of themselves because they see first hand from family members how certain activities and poor nutrition results in bad health.
I watched the town hall event last night with Hillary and Bernie. For the record I do think Bernie probably is one of the more honest politicians running. Probably cares more for the average American than most too. I just can't agree with his policies as they seem to extreme.
Case and point healthcare. A gentlemen asked about being middle class and having his taxes raised to pay for healthcare. Bernie responded how yes his taxes would rise but he'd save money with his health care plan overall.
So by that logic it seems like if you're somebody who eats healthy, stays active, avoids dangerous foods or activities statistically you will not go to the doctor as much. That's a fact. People who take care of themselves go to the doctor less.
So isn't that penalizing the people who live life taking care of themselves etc..? A lot of people take care of themselves because they see first hand from family members how certain activities and poor nutrition results in bad health.
Well that inequality/unfairness is what happens when government attempts to make everyone equal.
I watched the town hall event last night with Hillary and Bernie. For the record I do think Bernie probably is one of the more honest politicians running. Probably cares more for the average American than most too. I just can't agree with his policies as they seem to extreme.
Case and point healthcare. A gentlemen asked about being middle class and having his taxes raised to pay for healthcare. Bernie responded how yes his taxes would rise but he'd save money with his health care plan overall.
So by that logic it seems like if you're somebody who eats healthy, stays active, avoids dangerous foods or activities statistically you will not go to the doctor as much. That's a fact. People who take care of themselves go to the doctor less.
So isn't that penalizing the people who live life taking care of themselves etc..? A lot of people take care of themselves because they see first hand from family members how certain activities and poor nutrition results in bad health.
Statistically, people that don't "take care of themselves" die at a much younger age. Given that the vast majority of health care costs are associated with the elderly, those that take themselves out early end up costing less in the long run. We should be taxing bicycles, running shoes and gym memberships to fund single payer.
I fully expect ALL the Republican voters on here who are opposed to single payer healthcare to sign a pledge that they will not sign up for Medicare when they hit 65 years old, and fully fund their own healthcare. Oh, and, feel free to pay back the money I paid to take care of YOU and/or YOUR parents.
I fully expect ALL the Republican voters on here who are opposed to single payer healthcare to sign a pledge that they will not sign up for Medicare when they hit 65 years old, and fully fund their own healthcare. Oh, and, feel free to pay back the money I paid to take care of YOU and/or YOUR parents.
Every paycheck I get taxed to help pay for medicare and social security. So why wouldn't I take advantage of the benefits if I've spent 50 years paying into?
When the government runs healthcare the doctors make less. When doctors make less less people want to become doctors. When less people become doctors we have a shortage.
When the government owns the hospitals they will fall apart because the only way to keep these hospitals up to date with repairs etc.. will be when they can fit in the budget which you should know can't be balanced by any party in the White House.
Healthcare system is in this country has it's problem but you get the government more involved everybody will be worse off.
The government also can't even take care of veterans in the veterans hospitals which is a small % of our total populate. So how do you expect government run hospitals to take care of the entire country.
And I know I'm getting a little off tangent there saying government owned. But that will be the next step. When doctors cant freely charge what they want for medical related stuff you'll slowly see the government get involved more and take over.
I fully expect ALL the Republican voters on here who are opposed to single payer healthcare to sign a pledge that they will not sign up for Medicare when they hit 65 years old, and fully fund their own healthcare. Oh, and, feel free to pay back the money I paid to take care of YOU and/or YOUR parents.
I support Sanders and his ideas on health care but this has always been and is still a lame argument.
People pay for this their entire lives and don't have the option not to so of course they will want what they have been forced to pay for.
Case and point healthcare. A gentlemen asked about being middle class and having his taxes raised to pay for healthcare. Bernie responded how yes his taxes would rise but he'd save money with his health care plan overall.
well, at least he's being honest. You can't have your cake and eat it too. No countries can be able to keep universal health care and relatively low taxes.
This being said, I don't dislike him, cannot even say I really hate his healthcare plan. The thing is this, his plan has no chance of passing in congress.
The rate for the richest bracket would be closer to 77%—a number we haven’t seen since 1964. This country is still controlled by small percentage of people. So sander's dramatic healthcare plan is not going to happen.
I fully expect ALL the Republican voters on here who are opposed to single payer healthcare to sign a pledge that they will not sign up for Medicare when they hit 65 years old, and fully fund their own healthcare. Oh, and, feel free to pay back the money I paid to take care of YOU and/or YOUR parents.
Why would you expect that? That would be stupid. I expect you to send the IRS money every year to help finance your whims.
I pay 150 bucks a month for my insurance. How is Bernie gonna save me money if he raises my taxes?
The Japanese pay the rest of my premium. Why would we want taxpaying Americans to pay for my premiums instead of the Japanese?
What developed in our country is insurance heavily subsidized by corporations partially due to a tax write off for those who work and government insurance for those who reach retirement age. It is an excellent system. I suggest you get a job, move out of mom's spare bedroom and experience it.
Every paycheck I get taxed to help pay for medicare and social security. So why wouldn't I take advantage of the benefits if I've spent 50 years paying into?
Because your taxes only funded a small portion of medicare. The program is one of the biggest drivers of the national debt.
So if you want to be consistent with the principles of fairness you laid out in your first post, yes, you would forego medicare because you didn't fully pay your share of it.
Now, it goes without saying that there are tons of hypocrites who will oppose single payer, but still use medicare. This is selfish but that is human nature.
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