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Old 02-08-2016, 06:52 PM
 
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Thanks for confirming that you have a reading comprehension problem.
You said the answer was your imaginary fines.
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Old 02-08-2016, 06:56 PM
 
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You didn't bother to address my point.
What exactly was your point? You said that he won't get enough support, but we all know that and this topic is about what would have happened.

Then you talked about the minimum wage was not the problem, and I assumed you meant the high inequality is the problem. That is why I pointed out that $15 minimum wage will be higher than even Luxembourg.
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Old 02-08-2016, 06:58 PM
 
Location: Texas
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For example, are you aware what Bernie has stated about Uber? Five or six months ago, Bernie Sanders said he had "serious problems" with Uber as an “unregulated” company.

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I hope the drivers find a way to regulate the terms of their employment on their own. As it is I don't believe it's possible to make decent wages as an uber driver once you factor in vehicle expenses and what corporate skims off the top.
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Old 02-08-2016, 07:10 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Any prospective employee is able to negotiate pay with their prospective employer. A union isn't necessary to do that.
Necessary?

You're right, it's not necessary.

But a good union can be a great tool for higher wages and benefits, job security, better/safer working conditions, retirement, and grievance procedures. Most people would greatly benefit from collective bargaining.

CEO's don't work without a contract.

Many businesses find value in joining associations (employer unions if you will) because there is strength in numbers.

Most employees are "at will" and aggressively discouraged from joining labor associations.
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Old 02-08-2016, 07:13 PM
 
Location: Austin
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I hope the drivers find a way to regulate the terms of their employment on their own. As it is I don't believe it's possible to make decent wages as an uber driver once you factor in vehicle expenses and what corporate skims off the top.
If the money made isn't worth the driver's time they won't drive for Uber!

Who are you to decide what are "decent wages" or if someone wants to accept a wage for a job?

Who is Government to micromanage business owners' or workers' decisions?

Why ask repeatedly what regulations Bernie Sanders would impose? I'm not a mind reader, but he has said on numerous occasions that he would impose regulations on this or that business or industry....a man who never ran a business and hasn't worked in the private sector in over 45 years, if he ever did.
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Old 02-08-2016, 07:23 PM
 
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What exactly was your point? You said that he won't get enough support, but we all know that and this topic is about what would have happened.

Then you talked about the minimum wage was not the problem, and I assumed you meant the high inequality is the problem. That is why I pointed out that $15 minimum wage will be higher than even Luxembourg.
Nevermind....sheesh.
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Old 02-08-2016, 07:23 PM
 
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Any prospective employee is able to negotiate pay with their prospective employer. A union isn't necessary to do that.
Do you honestly believe than people other than high skilled professionals can negotiated individual salaries and benefits? Do you really believe that a group of employees in say Alabama can group together and negotiate those things without getting fired? How does a single person, or even a group of persons in a right-to-work state have any leverage with negotiating their terms of employment?
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Old 02-08-2016, 07:27 PM
 
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Do you honestly believe than people other than high skilled professionals can negotiated individual salaries and benefits? Do you really believe that a group of employees in say Alabama can group together and negotiate those things without getting fired? How does a single person, or even a group of persons in a right-to-work state have any leverage with negotiating their terms of employment?
It all depends on how bad they want it. Just because you want something doesn't mean it must be easy. I'm sure you are aware of what the coal miners went through to get the employers to the table.
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Old 02-08-2016, 07:30 PM
 
Location: Texas
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If the money made isn't worth the driver's time they won't drive for Uber!

Who are you to decide what are "decent wages" or if someone wants to accept a wage for a job?

Who is Government to micromanage business owners' or workers' decisions?

Why ask repeatedly what regulations Bernie Sanders would impose? I'm not a mind reader, but he has said on numerous occasions that he would impose regulations on this or that business or industry....a man who never ran a business and hasn't worked in the private sector in over 45 years, if he ever did.
What do you do for a living?
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Old 02-08-2016, 07:32 PM
 
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Do you honestly believe than people other than high skilled professionals can negotiated individual salaries and benefits? Do you really believe that a group of employees in say Alabama can group together and negotiate those things without getting fired? How does a single person, or even a group of persons in a right-to-work state have any leverage with negotiating their terms of employment?
I knew someone who worked for a company, didnt like their salary, couldnt get more, so they started a competitor. and then took over their former employees customers.

problem solved..
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