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Old 03-31-2016, 06:36 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Toyman at Jewel Lake View Post
I find it hard to believe we could be in this position in our great nation. 4 candidates reasonably in the running now...an avowed socialist that can't do math, perhaps the most corrupt politician in US history, a reality TV star and a religious nut that seems to have few real convictions. I love this country, can't believe it's coming down to this. What does our future hold when these are the choices WE pick?
Lets See....

  • Most Corrupt Politician in US History
  • Socialist
  • Reality TV Star
  • Religious Nut Case

I don't see the problem with option 3. Seems like the obvious choice over the 3 obviously flawed candidates.
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Old 03-31-2016, 06:49 AM
 
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And that way we only get two candidates with a viable chance of election. What's so great about that?


THe media and politicians are propping each other up. The politicians have to raise huge sums to pay their consultants to raise money to buy media. The consultants get a piece of every ad placed. It is an incestuous relationship.

If the buyers of broadcast airwaves had to set aside time for all candidates as a condition of getting their licenses, there would be no need for ad money.

Go back to the Fairness doctrine and equal time.I would not mind seeing the LWV run the debates instead of the parties and the tv. At least the candidates would get equal time. This last year of "debates" the one who yelled the loudest and hogged the microphone won the night.

Looks like Darwin was right. G-d help us.
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Old 03-31-2016, 07:01 AM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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Whats wrong with a new FDR or Truman like Bernie Sanders? The policies he fights for are the same as the great social democratic presidents of the past. A straight shooter with both compassion and chutzpah who serves the people instead of the big money donor class. Just what the patient ordered IMO.
They fear him because ahhh Socialist! But seriously, we need a modern day FDR to combat the regress we have seen in the past few years due to companies moving to Asia. We've seen this problem since the 1990's the latest. Nobody has an answer for the middle class about this, it's just lower taxes and supply side effects.
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Old 03-31-2016, 07:13 AM
 
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The system has been broken for a long while and is highly artificial. The best and most honorable and most wise and intelligent and moral do NOT rise to the top. Only those with the most money and mafia like connections get a kick at the Presidential can.


There are a thousand people out there perhaps with minimal educations...with minimal social status as we know it who are highly qualified to lead. They will NEVER be given the opportunity to serve the nation...It is all about maintaining the status quo.


Those who are mostly parasitic who generate money simply through the fact that they have money or were born with money are the only ones who are invited to the party. The purpose in America is to elect a person who will make sure that the super rich stay rich...that is the bottom line...and the hell with the rest of us.
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Old 03-31-2016, 07:15 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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That's what happens when you have an establishment that runs everything.
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Old 03-31-2016, 07:27 AM
 
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That's what happens when you have an establishment that runs everything.
What if that establishment is established on fantasy? It is like religion...a belief system. If you believe that the "establishment" with all their fiat currency is superior to you and that they are your masters...then these fakers rule over you. Personally I dealt with a man who controlled billions....He understood that I KNEW he was really a no body and he was NOT my superior....I refused to give him God like status...People should not worship those with money.
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Old 03-31-2016, 07:54 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Lets See....

  • Most Corrupt Politician in US History
  • Socialist
  • Reality TV Star
  • Religious Nut Case

I don't see the problem with option 3. Seems like the obvious choice over the 3 obviously flawed candidates.


Hear now this, O foolish people, and without understanding; which have eyes, and see not; which have ears, and hear not _____ Jeremiah 5:21
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Old 03-31-2016, 07:58 AM
 
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Kasich says hello.

He said he'll win on the third ballot in Cleveland.

Mick
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Old 03-31-2016, 08:00 AM
 
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I will send them a strong delusion. I believe that is some biblical curse of some kind. OR....another one...My people perish for lack of knowledge. ....Yes clowns are everywhere....and now even the most simplistic and dumbest American actually realizes that these big shots running for President have no credibility....that they are actually not smart at all.....This must be very depressing for America...that the leader gene pool has dried up....
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Old 03-31-2016, 08:08 AM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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Crazy isn't it!

More often than not, the best people who would be President, have no real interest in running for the office and desire to experience the dog and pony show that is Presidential elections.

I have to agree. Who would want to put themselves or their family through THAT cluster? No thanks.

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Whats wrong with a new FDR or Truman like Bernie Sanders? The policies he fights for are the same as the great social democratic presidents of the past. A straight shooter with both compassion and chutzpah who serves the people instead of the big money donor class. Just what the patient ordered IMO.

What's wrong is the amount in which individual taxes will be raised; kind of a turnoff to a lot of the taxpaying public. Middle class has been squeezed for YEARS and Bernie wants to squeeze us some more. A lot more.

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You all make fun of Trump but it is his money he's spending - very little is coming from donations or superpacs who expect him to follow their lead so in that aspect - I admire him - but I don't think any of the candidates are actual presidential material.
He will be paying himself back with the pac money he intends to use in the general election.
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