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Old 04-11-2016, 02:20 AM
 
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This is all common sense which the anti wall people continuously refuse to acknowledge. These leftist anti wall people are like those three monkeys with their hands over their eyes, ears and mouths, refusing to acknowledge a problem exists because they want to just look the other way. They see no evil, hear no evil and speak no evil because it doesn't benefit their objective of a one party rule nation which illegals and open borders play the most significant role. They complain about the cost of enforcing laws and building barriers yet never ever mention the billions it costs us every year to maintain things as they currently are with illegals living here and taking full advantage of our welfare system, healthcare system and education system.
As one anti wall poster has already documented, they are so worried about the fishermen on one lake yet have no worry at all about millions of jobs at stake on dry land. The hypocrisy is beyond comprehension but it's expected from those who see the next 30,000,000 illegals and their anchor babies the future voters of the democratic party. Let's not kid ourselves because this is what it's all about for the wall opponents that find every excuse imaginable not to support anything that would greatly reduce the number of illegals in this country. No amount of common sense or facts will ever make any difference to these wall haters because it doesn't fit with their political agenda.
Build the wall, spend billions on the project then scratch your head trying to figure out why the wall isnt diminishing your illegal immigrant population.
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Old 04-11-2016, 02:33 AM
 
Location: Stasis
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Build the wall, spend billions on the project then scratch your head trying to figure out why the wall isnt diminishing your illegal immigrant population.
"Trump wants to build a wall? We have tunnels" - George Lopez
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Old 04-11-2016, 02:40 AM
 
Location: 23.7 million to 162 million miles North of Venus
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Build the wall, spend billions on the project then scratch your head trying to figure out why the wall isnt diminishing your illegal immigrant population.
Well, instead of building a wall maybe we should just build a cattle chute that extends from Mexico to Canada and herd the illegals on up to Canada .. then you can spend $113 billion a year to support them.
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Old 04-11-2016, 04:39 AM
 
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Canada realizes the benefits of migrant workers and has programs that welcome them.
No walls needed=
Fact Sheet — Temporary Foreign Worker Program
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Old 04-11-2016, 05:59 AM
 
Location: 23.7 million to 162 million miles North of Venus
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Canada realizes the benefits of migrant workers and has programs that welcome them.
No walls needed=
Fact Sheet — Temporary Foreign Worker Program
So does the US. The real question is .. how does Canada treat illegals? Does Canada pamper them with freebies, paid for by the citizens? Or, does Canada deport them as quickly as they can?

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Penalties for Violating Immigration Laws
Sanctions for Unlawful Entry and Overstaying

The IRPA does not specifically criminalize unlawfully entering the country or unlawfully overstaying a visa. Both of these types of actions, however, fall under the general prohibition against contravening the law without exercising due diligence to prevent doing so.
Crown prosecutors have discretion to try general IRPA offenses either by way of an indictment or in summary proceedings. The distinction between indictable and summary offenses is similar to the distinction between felonies and misdemeanors in the United States, and a crime that can be tried either by way of an indictment or in summary proceedings is considered to be a “hybrid†offense. The maximum penalty for a person who commits such a general offense as entering the country unlawfully or unlawfully overstaying a visa is a fine of Can$50,000 and imprisonment for two years, if prosecuted by way of an indictment, and a fine of $10,000 and imprisonment for six months, if prosecuted in summary proceedings.[46] Crown prosecutors usually base their decisions as to whether a defendant should be tried by way of an indictment or in summary proceedings upon such factors as the seriousness of the violation, the defendant’s intentions, and the defendant’s prior record.
Most persons caught violating the general provisions of the immigration laws are deported or ordered to leave Canada. CBSA administers the detention and removal of illegal immigrants and persons who overstay their visa. According to a November 2010 CBSA report,
[i]ndividuals who are removed from Canada are removed in priority if: they pose a threat to the security of Canada; they are involved in crime, organized crime or crimes against humanity; they are failed refugee claimants; or they are otherwise inadmissible (e.g., expired visas, misrepresentation of their identity, including marriages of convenience and fraudulent documents).[47]
https://www.loc.gov/law/help/citizen...ays/canada.php

Ouch, harsh, eh? tsk, tsk.
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Old 04-11-2016, 06:51 AM
 
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"Trump wants to build a wall? We have tunnels" - George Lopez

We have tunnel sensors.
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Old 04-11-2016, 06:54 AM
 
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This is all common sense which the anti wall people continuously refuse to acknowledge. These leftist anti wall people are like those three monkeys with their hands over their eyes, ears and mouths, refusing to acknowledge a problem exists because they want to just look the other way. They see no evil, hear no evil and speak no evil because it doesn't benefit their objective of a one party rule nation which illegals and open borders play the most significant role. They complain about the cost of enforcing laws and building barriers yet never ever mention the billions it costs us every year to maintain things as they currently are with illegals living here and taking full advantage of our welfare system, healthcare system and education system.
As one anti wall poster has already documented, they are so worried about the fishermen on one lake yet have no worry at all about millions of jobs at stake on dry land. The hypocrisy is beyond comprehension but it's expected from those who see the next 30,000,000 illegals and their anchor babies the future voters of the democratic party. Let's not kid ourselves because this is what it's all about for the wall opponents that find every excuse imaginable not to support anything that would greatly reduce the number of illegals in this country. No amount of common sense or facts will ever make any difference to these wall haters because it doesn't fit with their political agenda.

I couldn't agree more!
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Old 04-11-2016, 09:30 AM
 
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So does the US. The real question is .. how does Canada treat illegals? Does Canada pamper them with freebies, paid for by the citizens? Or, does Canada deport them as quickly as they can?

Let's take a look....

https://www.loc.gov/law/help/citizen...ays/canada.php

Ouch, harsh, eh? tsk, tsk.

Seems Canada deals with its illegal immigrant demographic in an expedient manner and deports them when illegal aliens are discovered,whereas the USA lets its illegal demographic have free access to all manner of American social programs then never stops complaining about it and instead of prosecuting its illegals to the fullest extent of the law they come up with dumb ideas like spending a billion on building a wall in the mistaken belief its going to solve the problem.Until the USA takes the problem of immigration seriously you will always have the poor central American demographic gravitating to the richer opportunities America has to offer. I dont understand why Canada can take care of its illegal immigrant population but America fails on the issue.

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Old 04-11-2016, 10:51 AM
 
Location: Kansas
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Build the wall, spend billions on the project then scratch your head trying to figure out why the wall isnt diminishing your illegal immigrant population.
It will diminish it to a great extent and combined with e-verify and some other tactics, we can virtually shut it down.

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"Trump wants to build a wall? We have tunnels" - George Lopez
The tunnels can be dealt with WHEN we get people that are willing to let border patrol do their jobs!
We also need to keep an eye on the CIA: Overwhelming Evidence That the CIA is Smuggling Drugs for Decades | Humans Are Free

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Well, instead of building a wall maybe we should just build a cattle chute that extends from Mexico to Canada and herd the illegals on up to Canada .. then you can spend $113 billion a year to support them.
I'll contribute to that if you send our Canadian representative, Cruz, along with the bunch. He wants to make them legal so let him do it in Canada!!!

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Canada realizes the benefits of migrant workers and has programs that welcome them.
No walls needed=
Fact Sheet — Temporary Foreign Worker Program
Do you seriously not know the difference between a migrant worker and an illegal alien? One is in the country because they followed the rules, thus LEGAL migrant worker and the others entered the US without authorization, many committing serious crimes against our citizens, sucking the public assistance teat to the tone of over $13 billion tax payer dollars per year. It really isn't that hard of concept.


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Seems Canada deals with its illegal immigrant demographic in an expedient manner and deports them when illegal aliens are discovered,whereas the USA lets its illegal demographic have free access to all manner of American social programs then never stops complaining about it and instead of prosecuting its illegals to the fullest extent of the law they come up with dumb ideas like spending a billion on building a wall in the mistaken belief its going to solve the problem.Until the USA takes the problem of immigration seriously you will always have the poor central American demographic gravitating to the Richer opportunities American has to offer. I dont understand why Canada can take care of its illegal immigrant population but America fails on the issue.
Isn't the US the only country that can't take care of the problem? Could it be that the politicians get bundles of cash from businesses that exploit the illegals? Could it be that many of the wealthy like those illegal drugs pouring in through the border?

We aren't going to have richer opportunities. They come here and have children for us to support. We can't continue to have 1 or 2 children per citizen family and 5 or 6 anchors. Do the math? There aren't enough of us to support them.

We need the Wall. We need to remove ALL incentives. That includes what is being used to justify anchor babies living off of us: The 14th Amendment to the United States Constitution - Fourteenth Amendment - anchor babies and birthright citizenship - interpretations and misinterpretations - US Constitution and Did Congress ever confer citizenship on anchor babies? - NetRight Daily and https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-...-bill/140/text

The Wall: https://visawolf.com/mr-trump-here-is-your-border-wall/
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Old 04-11-2016, 11:10 AM
 
Location: Secure Bunker
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Build the wall, spend billions on the project then scratch your head trying to figure out why the wall isnt diminishing your illegal immigrant population.
Nonsense. They built a huge fence along the southern edge of San Diego county and it greatly reduce illegal crossings in that area.

Israel built a wall to keep out suicide bombers. Since the construction of the wall suicide bombings in Israel have dropped by about 95%.

Walls and fences work if you do it right.
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