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Old 05-04-2016, 03:10 AM
 
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Indiana has voted Red in 11 of the last 12 elections. You live to be wrong, don't you?
LOL. Nice way to avoid the point since it doesn't fit your narrative.

More women, >2X, voted for Trump in Indiana's open primary than voted for Hillary. (who can't even beat a socialist) Proves this topic absolutely wrong. And Indiana did vote for Obama. It's also clear it won't be going for Hillary.

There is only one Demographic that mindlessly votes for Hillary as a block, and their vote won't make any difference in this race.
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Old 05-04-2016, 03:10 AM
 
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The problem for the Dems is that Hillary`s image of standing along side a man who has with a history of humiliating her isn`t much better.

My guess is the Dems aren`t going to dig too deep into Trumps playboy days or failed marriages.

They do and Trump won`t hesitate to put together a list of women willing to speak out against Bill C. This is going to be a no-holds bar election which ultimately is the biggest problem for Hillary. She`s going up against an opponent who doesn't play by the same political rules. Back in the day Bill Clinton probably could have handled Trump but not Hillary and not today.

She`s trained to fight a Jeb Bush or Cruz and not someone like Trump.

Women speaking out against Bill? A lot of us would love to hear dirt from/about the women Hillary's had...

I say, go for it, Donald.
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Old 05-04-2016, 03:13 AM
 
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I say, go for it, Donald.
He will. And Hillary will melt like like the rare snow in the South.

(She's still having trouble putting away the Socialist)
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Old 05-04-2016, 03:29 AM
 
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Trump has said a lot of things over the past five months but the one thing I believe he's absolutely correct in saying is that Hillary does not want to face him.
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Old 05-04-2016, 03:41 AM
 
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Not really. When the Bill Clinton/Monica L. scandal was going on there were plenty of women who felt Hillary should have walked. Add to this Hillary's entrance into politics shortly after B.C. left office and it isn't hard to believe her marriage is one of convenience. Hillary isn't thought of as a particularly strong role model for women esp. the younger generation.
Maybe some Republican women thought she should walk but most women had no such opinion. Many were quite shocked that she stayed, but not that shocked. It was really up to her what she did. Most women thought she handled it quite appropriately. She didn't drag her marriage through the media like a lot of women would have. There's a lot to admire about Hillary.
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Old 05-04-2016, 03:48 AM
 
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... She didn't drag her marriage through the media like a lot of women would have. There's a lot to admire about Hillary.
Dear, that marriage was already dragged through the media. Bill Clinton committed adultery with White House intern, more than once, and then lied to America about it.

He was impeached for the lying part. If Hillary had wanted a divorce it would have been instantly granted and nobody would have noticed. It didn't happen of course because Hillary needed the Clinton name. It's a slap in the face to women everywhere who have had to deal with adulterous abusive husbands.

And I disagree with your characterization about "most". If anything Hillary continues to prove that she has a very difficult time winning a national election. The fact that she is still fighting Bernie proves this.
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Old 05-04-2016, 03:54 AM
 
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i think people are making this harder than it is.

if blacks and hispanics dont vote for trump in decent numbers he loses.

thats the end of the story.

hillary doesnt need white males to win. trump needs white males and 40 percent of hispanics for me to take him seriously as a candidate because i know he can't win without those numbers as a starting point.

the question is what will trump do to raise his favorables with those groups?

with blacks maybe it's a centrist black candidate with appeal to the left and right as a vp pick. a centrist, not a ben carson type. a colin powell type maybe.

with hispanics trump needs to give up on the wall.

the truth is most of his white supporters are lemmings who will follow him regardless if he comes through on the wall or not.

they are voting because of the brand donald trump, they are not voting on ideas since trump has none.
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Old 05-04-2016, 04:06 AM
 
Location: az
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Maybe some Republican women thought she should walk but most women had no such opinion. Many were quite shocked that she stayed, but not that shocked. It was really up to her what she did. Most women thought she handled it quite appropriately. She didn't drag her marriage through the media like a lot of women would have. There's a lot to admire about Hillary.

When the story broke B.C. already had a string of sex scandals reported by the media. However, this time the young lady kept the dress which had his... manhood? If not for the dress B.C. would have crushed her.

But when it came to light Bill had lied and the woman was telling the truth there was a lot of media talk about Hillary sticking by someone who publicly humiliated her and likely not for the first time.

So why did she stay? Well, nobody knows except those two. However, it's not hard to imagine Hillary willing to stand by Bill if the Dem party was willing to back her politically later on.

Hillary isn't a fool and likely knew Bill had been catting around for years but as long as she got what she wanted from the relationship it was all good. Which doesn't make Hillary a bad person as we all weigh the good/bad in a marriage.

However, none of the above are admirable qualities which is one reason I suspect Hillary isn't thought of too highly by many women especially the younger generation.
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Old 05-04-2016, 04:10 AM
 
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How does Trump get elected when he calls Mexicans rapists?

How does Trump get elected when he calls women fat, ugly, disgusting pigs and worse? Do you know that at Trump rallies, they sell Hillary pins that liken her to KFC but with fat thighs and small breasts?

Women are 51% of the population. I realize Trump has some wildly devoted women supporters of a certain demographic, but do you think women outside of that demographic would ever vote for him? Trump seems to think women are only of value if they are half naked on a stage. He's already traded in two wives and is on his third. He likened his love life as his own personal Vietnam (since he got out of Vietnam with a bone spur).


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKmhK8G--7c
Your video is a lie. Those aren't quotes from Donald Trump. They are quotes from silly women.


He did call Mexican rapists "rapists". He did call Rosie a "pig". So what's the problem?
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Old 05-04-2016, 04:12 AM
 
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Dear, that marriage was already dragged through the media. Bill Clinton committed adultery with White House intern, more than once, and then lied to America about it.

He was impeached for the lying part. If Hillary had wanted a divorce it would have been instantly granted and nobody would have noticed. It didn't happen of course because Hillary needed the Clinton name. It's a slap in the face to women everywhere who have had to deal with adulterous abusive husbands.

And I disagree with your characterization about "most". If anything Hillary continues to prove that she has a very difficult time winning a national election. The fact that she is still fighting Bernie proves this.
Indeed, Hillary is a slap in the face to all decent, strong women. She is an absolute nobody without the Clinton name. Hillary is the War on Women. She called women "bimbos" long before Trump called Rosie a pig.
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