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Old 05-04-2016, 04:16 AM
 
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i think people are making this harder than it is.

if blacks and hispanics dont vote for trump in decent numbers he loses.

thats the end of the story.
People don't vote for President. The electors do in the electoral college. '

Most Blacks live in Red states. Their vote only matters to the Democrat.

There is no evidence that voters of Hispanic orgin, especially 2nd generation or later, will support Hillary. Hispanics are not block voters.
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Old 05-04-2016, 04:33 AM
 
Location: Tampa, FL
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How does Trump get elected when he calls Mexicans rapists?

How does Trump get elected when he calls women fat, ugly, disgusting pigs and worse? Do you know that at Trump rallies, they sell Hillary pins that liken her to KFC but with fat thighs and small breasts?

Women are 51% of the population. I realize Trump has some wildly devoted women supporters of a certain demographic, but do you think women outside of that demographic would ever vote for him? Trump seems to think women are only of value if they are half naked on a stage. He's already traded in two wives and is on his third. He likened his love life as his own personal Vietnam (since he got out of Vietnam with a bone spur).


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKmhK8G--7c
Americans seem not to care.
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Old 05-04-2016, 04:35 AM
 
Location: az
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Indeed, Hillary is a slap in the face to all decent, strong women. She is an absolute nobody without the Clinton name. Hillary is the War on Women. She called women "bimbos" long before Trump called Rosie a pig.
Which is why the Dem party is quite nervous about running against Trump. He won't hesitate to bring up the past and that Hillary likely knew the accusations made by women other than Monica L. against her husband were also true. Yet she did nothing. Why? Because it wasn't in her best interest.

If she's going to pass herself off as a champion of woman she'd better be able to explain why she readily dismissed the allegations of sexual misconduct made against her husband.

The Dems had better be careful or this could blow up into a scandal.

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Old 05-04-2016, 04:36 AM
 
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People don't vote for President. The electors do in the electoral college. '

Most Blacks live in Red states. Their vote only matters to the Democrat.

There is no evidence that voters of Hispanic orgin, especially 2nd generation or later, will support Hillary. Hispanics are not block voters.
The percentage of black voters in proportion to the population was greater than whites in 2012. If those numbers turn out again like that at that rate, 90-95 Clinton, Trump is done.

And again I have to question you.

Hispanics voted for Obama at over 75 percent. That's a big block.

We know your a big trump fan and excited, which is one of the reasons I'm laying off you and not breaking down all of your ridiculous predictions. I think recently you said Trump would win 44 states. I'm glad you found the guy you like.

You are not being realistic though.
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Old 05-04-2016, 04:37 AM
 
Location: Tampa, FL
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I don't know....but it's happening. It's a MOVEMENT...just go with it! Otherwise, everything stays like it is today.
Popular vote % in Republican primary for winning nominee:
2000 Bush: 62%
2008 McCain: 47%
2012 Romney: 52%
2016 Trump: 40%
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Old 05-04-2016, 04:50 AM
 
Location: az
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The percentage of black voters in proportion to the population was greater than whites in 2012. If those numbers turn out again like that at that rate, 90-95 Clinton, Trump is done.
I seriously doubt she's going to get those numbers. We already see antidotal evidence of this on the YouTube. Plenty of black Trump supporters are posting. His message of creating jobs plays very well in the black community. My guess is Trump will get more of the Black vote than a Rep presidential candidate has gotten in a long time.
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Old 05-04-2016, 05:28 AM
 
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People don't vote for President. The electors do in the electoral college.
Please. While technically correct, the electors have always selected the candidate who won the popular vote in the state. Are you aware of any recent exceptions? '

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Most Blacks live in Red states. Their vote only matters to the Democrat.
Somewhat true, but not exactly about the outcome. The top 20 states with highest percentage of black citizens include: Virginia, Florida, Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Illinois, Ohio, Michigan, Delaware, Maryland, New York and New Jersey. I believe the first seven of those are identified as the battle ground states . . . . The votes are always very close in those states, and therefore blacks can and do make a difference.

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There is no evidence that voters of Hispanic orgin, especially 2nd generation or later, will support Hillary. Hispanics are not block voters.
Funny, every poll shows that Mr. Trump has 75-85% unfavorability rating among Hispanics. In the last 40 years, 2/3 of Hispanics have voted for a Democrat in every single presidential election, the only exception being GWB's reelection bid when he *only* lost by 9%. Sure sounds like a voting block, even though they are not technically monolithic . . . but then again no voting group ever is.

But it's okay, keep deluding yourself until the exit polls come out on the election night.

Mick
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Old 05-04-2016, 05:36 AM
 
Location: az
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What Nevada showed about Trump's Hispanic support - and what it didn't

When it comes to the Latino voting bloc, one thing is clear: it's not monolithic. They went Democratic for Obama in 2012 (71%).

But George W. Bush garnered 44% of the Hispanic vote in 2004 -- the best showing ever for a Republican.

There are Cuban-Americans in the mix who tend to be Republican and conservative, Puerto Ricans who have recently moved to Florida voting Democratic and Mexican-Americans who are all over the place ... just to name a few.

In the end, it's probably too early for Trump to say that he's "No. 1 with Hispanics."

But it's also too early to say that he's not, in spite of the anti-immigrant rhetoric that has alienated a significant portion of this voting bloc.

Did Nevada really show Trump has solid Hispanic support? - CNNPolitics.com
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Old 05-04-2016, 05:36 AM
 
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I seriously doubt she's going to get those numbers. We already see antidotal evidence of this on the YouTube. Plenty of black Trump supporters are posting. His message of creating jobs plays very well in the black community. My guess is Trump will get more of the Black vote than a Rep presidential candidate has gotten in a long time.
She will definitely do worse than Obama for sure . . . . but then again, who can get 93% (2008) and 95% (2012) again?

YouTubers? There are like 40 million black citizens in this country. What kind of evidence of support is that? If Mr. Trump had only 5% support, that's still 2 million blacks. On the flip side, if you look at the Trump protestors, especially the ones getting bloody, a majority are black (which is somewhat counter-intuitive) . . . . based on that fact alone, some might conclude that Mr. Trump would not do well. But guess what, that's just anecdotal evidence that fits one's agenda on either side. Both mean nothing.

I agree that he would do better than the typical Republican. But also keep in mind that blacks are fiercely loyal. In the last 40 years, they have never given less than 88% of their votes to the Democrats. Even such winners as Dukakis, Mondale or Kerry. With their hero Obama actively campaigning for Hillary and begging them to protect his legacy, don't expect any miracles.

Mick
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Old 05-04-2016, 05:38 AM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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To a Trump supporter, it might seem that way.

To the rest of the electorate (all 80% of it), your posts come off as good-old victim blaming.
Like how Hillary blamed the 12 year old rape victim when she got his rapist off with a slap on the hand? That kind of victim blaming?

Hillary Clinton Refuses Apologize Laughing Rape Victim Child | The Daily Caller
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