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Old 05-19-2016, 11:43 PM
 
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Can Trump win without the minority vote?

Their support of him is extremely low.

 
Old 05-19-2016, 11:48 PM
 
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Once she puts old man Sanders away, expect to see her jump up double digits over Trump again. They will both get a bump after the conventions and then once everyone focusses in on everything Trump has said over the last few decades, his poll numbers will plummet. Much of the general public isn't really even paying attention to the general election race yet.
Can you put a concrete number/date on it so we have something to hold you to? Clinton by 15%, 20%, 25%? By say end of June or what?
 
Old 05-20-2016, 12:59 AM
 
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Can Trump win without the minority vote?

Their support of him is extremely low.
Ahh. You must be talking about the African American vote. Most of them in the USA live in states that will be red. Assuming they "block vote" it won't make any difference to Trump.

The bigger question is can Hillary hold them. Because she is sunk in some Blue states without that "vote".
 
Old 05-20-2016, 01:00 AM
 
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You must not follow politics much.
I sure as hell called the GOP nomination right compared to your constant bleating that Cruz was going to win it via a contested convention. And I was one of the first on this forum to say Trump would win the nomination, months & months ago.

This speaks for itself.

Now you repeat same with Hillary Clinton. Will be the same result too. She's not going to win the Presidency.
 
Old 05-20-2016, 05:59 AM
 
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Once she puts old man Sanders away, expect to see her jump up double digits over Trump again. They will both get a bump after the conventions and then once everyone focusses in on everything Trump has said over the last few decades, his poll numbers will plummet. Much of the general public isn't really even paying attention to the general election race yet.
I'm never right but I think Sanders voters will go nuts inside and outside the Dem. Convention. Hillary will appease them because she wants their votes. People watching at home will be appalled by the violent disruptive vandals who appear not to be hard working middle class people but spoiled brat student socialists looking for freebies, Code Pinkos and overaged hippies who never grew up. The voters will assess her as "weak" in standing up to them especially if they keep it up after the convention, on the campaign trail, when the TV cameras are around. The middle class voters will do what they always do when there is public rioting and violence. They will vote Republican, the law and order party. Bernie Sanders will go back to the Senate and told to go caucus by himself.
 
Old 05-20-2016, 06:07 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Can Trump win without the minority vote?

Their support of him is extremely low.
that will probably be the deciding factor in November. It will depend on the % Trump can get and the number who come out to vote. I think it is very likely minorities will not be voting in large numbers this year. If that is the case he may be able to pull it off. Cities like Chicago have a high % of blacks, they will go for Clinton I am sure. States with high number of Hispanics will probably go Clinton as well, especially states like CAlifornia. Florida should go Trump and Texas probably as well. NM will support Clinton but they only have a handful of electoral votes anyway. Pa and MD, high number of blacks, they could go either way.
 
Old 05-20-2016, 06:08 AM
 
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Ahh. You must be talking about the African American vote. Most of them in the USA live in states that will be red. Assuming they "block vote" it won't make any difference to Trump.

The bigger question is can Hillary hold them. Because she is sunk in some Blue states without that "vote".

the black vote won obama north carolina in 08 and was a big reason why he held virginia in 2012.

thats the problem with the right. they always downplay the minority vote and ended up getting pummeled for it.

romney people said we dont need the minority vote in 2012 and got obliterated 332-206 with 60 percent of the white vote.

trump doesnt win, period, without a big minority vote.
 
Old 05-20-2016, 06:13 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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Another myth dispelled. Hispanics prefer Trump over Clinton.

https://twitter.com/rossr122/status/730643858296569856
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/20/op...l-right-region

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The problem is that the polls that make the news are also the ones most likely to be wrong. And to folks like us, who know the polling game and can sort out real trends from normal perturbations, too many of this year’s polls, and their coverage, have been cringeworthy.
Nobody can seriously believe that Hispanics prefer Trump over Clinton.
 
Old 05-20-2016, 06:41 AM
 
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http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/20/op...l-right-region

Nobody can seriously believe that Hispanics prefer Trump over Clinton.
It's a Gravis poll. That alone should make one suspect its accuracy.
 
Old 05-20-2016, 06:41 AM
 
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