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Old 05-11-2016, 05:36 PM
 
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Originally Posted by WaldoKitty View Post
I predicted that Hillary would win NJ.
I've read several recent articles that say, surprisingly, that she is also winning Oregon. I'm not talking about left or right wing leaning websites, but local papers. Example

[URL="http://www.oregonlive.com/politics/index.ssf/2016/05/hillary_clinton_and_donald_tru.html"]Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump winning Oregon primaries?[/URL]

and this

[URL="http://q13fox.com/2016/05/10/new-polls-shows-likely-voters-favoring-clinton-over-sanders-in-oregon-week-before-democratic-primary/"]New poll shows Clinton favored over Sanders in Oregon week before Democratic primary[/URL]

and this

[URL="http://www.opb.org/news/series/election-2016/bernie-sanders-hillary-clinton-donald-trump-oregon-poll/"]Poll: Despite Bernie Sanders' Crowds, Hillary Clinton Ahead In Oregon[/URL]
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Old 05-11-2016, 05:45 PM
 
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Completely meaningless primary of course, there is zero reason for Sanders supporters to vote but not surprising seeing you support blatantly lying about who won the state. Your partisan attitude is hilarious.
I agree with emm74. Yes, Bernie won Nebraska. However, although Hillary did not win any delegates from the Nebraska primary, when twice as many voters showed up to vote on Tuesday (compared to the caucus in March) she won by a large margin. I've heard political pundits discuss this briefly. It shows that a caucus doesn't necessarily represent the majority of registered voters since most people can't or don't want to go to a specific place at a specific time and sit around for hours debating. Nobody is stating that Bernie lost Nebraska. He won the caucus and received the proportional number of delegates.

[URL="http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/dem-primaries/279468-clinton-wins-nebraska-primary-but-gets-no-delegates"]Clinton wins Nebraska primary but gets no delegates[/URL]
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Old 05-11-2016, 05:54 PM
 
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Well Kentucky is up in the air. Her comments made about coal will probably cause her to lose Kentucky. He'll blow Oregon out taking almost every delegate like Washington. Will probably take 75% of delegates in South Dakota, Montana, and North Dakota.

New Mexico I feel can sway to whover wins California.

D.C. will go to Hillary probably.

Now California is a tough call. The rules have changed so much with voting that I fear Independents won't change over to Democrat by the deadline to vote be NY all over again.

However, if Sanders independent supporters change over in time will be a blow out in favor of Sanders k.o. Hillary and giving him the nomination.
With Trump supporters now voting for Bernie in primaries, it's really difficult to rely on any polling.


[url=http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/donald-trump-supporters-boost-bernie-sanders-west-virginia-n571791]Donald Trump Supporters Boost Bernie Sanders in West Virginia - NBC News[/url]

[URL="http://www.mediaite.com/tv/hillary-clinton-slaughters-bernie-sanders-in-west-virginia-with-non-trump-voters/"]Hillary Clinton Slaughters Bernie Sanders in West Virginia with Non-Trump Voters[/URL]

[URL="https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/05/10/early-w-va-numbers-show-4-in-10-sanders-backers-prefer-trump-over-clinton-and-trump-over-sanders/"]A lot of Donald Trump supporters voted for Bernie Sanders today[/URL]
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Old 05-11-2016, 08:01 PM
 
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Bernie will win the entire West Coast as things are headed now.
Based on what? Your own, personal opinion?

Poll: Despite Bernie Sanders' Crowds, Hillary Clinton Ahead In Oregon . News | OPB

http://abc7.com/politics/poll-ca-vot...inton/1318792/
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Old 05-11-2016, 09:21 PM
 
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Bernie is way behind in polls in both Oregon (a closed primary) and CA (a more diverse state). Hillary will win both of them handily.

Bernie will take Montana and the Dakotas, but that's it. There just aren't enough angry White people for him to win.
Pretty much.
Even if you're off a bit and Bernie takes OR and CA by anything less than a landslide, angry white people still lose.
Nothing against MT and the Dakotas, I have friends in both, but they don't matter in this election cycle.
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Old 05-11-2016, 09:33 PM
 
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Pretty much.
Even if you're off a bit and Bernie takes OR and CA by anything less than a landslide, angry white people still lose.
Nothing against MT and the Dakotas, I have friends in both, but they don't matter in this election cycle.
Its like you are campaigning hard for a Trump presidency the way you are reacting to Bernie and his supporters. It is mind blowing really. You couldnt do a better job of pushing Trump on people.
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Old 05-11-2016, 09:36 PM
 
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With Trump supporters now voting for Bernie in primaries, it's really difficult to rely on any polling.
Sanders polled way ahead of Hillary in West Virginia 8 months ago, and that never changed. It was always a pipe dream that Hillary would win West Virginia no matter how much talking heads employed by big business media that have donated millions to Hillary like to promote that idea.
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Old 05-11-2016, 09:55 PM
 
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Sanders polled way ahead of Hillary in West Virginia 8 months ago, and that never changed. It was always a pipe dream that Hillary would win West Virginia no matter how much talking heads employed by big business media that have donated millions to Hillary like to promote that idea.
And you continue to miss the point. This isn't about thinking Hillary should have or would have won. It's that a very large percentage (anywhere from 35 to 50% depending on the source, it's been all over from what I've seen) of the voters yesterday are not Bernie supporters and would not vote for him over Trump if Bernie were the Democratic nominee. It has nothing to do with whether they'd vote for Hillary, because they wouldn't. The point is that they wouldn't be voting for Bernie in November either.
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Old 05-11-2016, 10:01 PM
 
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And you continue to miss the point. This isn't about thinking Hillary should have or would have won.
Yes, it is. He was leading Hillary 8 months ago in the state by big margins. Yet, you blatantly and shamelessly claimed that Sanders won the state only because of Trump voters trolling the Dem primary and more than insinuated that Hillary was the rightful winner. This is pathetic.
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Old 05-11-2016, 10:20 PM
 
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Quality vs quantity.
Quality? Well that knocks Hillary out.
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