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Old 05-29-2016, 03:18 PM
 
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His strategy will be Southern Red Wall usual GOP plus states which will make NAFTA the prevailing issue, Pa through Rust Belt.

I suspect he will fight hard but lose NY & Ca, but tightening them means Dems must use resources there.they would prefer using in say Ohio, Michigan, pa, etc.
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Old 05-29-2016, 03:21 PM
 
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His strategy will be Southern Red Wall usual GOP plus states which will make NAFTA the prevailing issue, Pa through Rust Belt.

I suspect he will fight hard but lose NY & Ca, but tightening them means Dems must use resources there.they would prefer using in say Ohio, Michigan, pa, etc.
Not sure that will matter. Dems will have MUCH more money to burn than Republicans. No one wants to give Dishonest Donald any money, not even long time GOP donors.
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Old 05-29-2016, 04:18 PM
 
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His strategy will be Southern Red Wall usual GOP plus states which will make NAFTA the prevailing issue, Pa through Rust Belt.

I suspect he will fight hard but lose NY & Ca, but tightening them means Dems must use resources there.they would prefer using in say Ohio, Michigan, pa, etc.
A Rust Belt strategy is Trump's best bet to get to 270. The Bush path of holding the Romney states (206 electoral votes) plus Florida (29 to get to 235), Ohio (18 to reach 253), Virginia (13 for 266) and Colorado (9 for 275 and the win) is just getting too dicey. Flipping Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin is a sound strategy, though it might be a reach. I don't think Hillary's going to drop a lot of dollars on California and New York because if she loses one of those states, she'll lose anyway. Trump won't invest in Cal or NY to any great extent, anyway. It's typical Trump blarney.

I think you're right about NAFTA. He'll play that card for all it's worth.
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Old 05-29-2016, 04:20 PM
 
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Donald Trump tells Californians there is no drought then promises to fix the drought.

Donald Trump tells Californians there is no drought

Trump vows to 'open up the water' in drought-stricken California | PBS NewsHour
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Old 05-29-2016, 04:42 PM
 
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Trump has incentivized millions of them to register to vote and turn out against him in Nov as no other Republican in their lifetime has The clown is going to get buried in the general election.
He'll win in a land slide. Bringing up Clintons past as a rapist, Hillary's defense of rapist, their joint support in droning children and invading countries, backing wall street in the 08 crash, and the murder of Vince Foster will put him over the top.
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Old 05-29-2016, 04:51 PM
 
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I suspect he will fight hard but lose NY & Ca, but tightening them means Dems must use resources there.they would prefer using in say Ohio, Michigan, pa, etc.
He won't win in California and Hillary won't have to spend a ton of money fighting him off.

For comparison, I offer Jerry Brown. He had very little money when he ran against Meg Whitman. She spent over $100 million of her own money (most expensive race ever) and she still lost. When he ran for re-election (can't remember what year), he didn't run a single campaign ad and he still won. I think his campaign cost him $1.98 -- seriously. His competition spent millions and still didn't win.

Hillary will take California. Trump is wasting money if he thinks he can win here.
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Old 05-29-2016, 04:51 PM
 
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He'll win in a land slide. Bringing up Clintons past as a rapist, Hillary's defense of rapist, their joint support in droning children and invading countries, backing wall street in the 08 crash, and the murder of Vince Foster will put him over the top.
step away from the Kool-Aid
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Old 05-29-2016, 04:51 PM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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Pennsylvania is likely the one to watch on election night. If Trump's appeal to rust belt blue collars turn any state, it's most likely Pennsylvania. Chances of taking Michigan, Minnesota or Wisconsin are next to nil if he isn't able to turn PA, so taking it is key for him.

As far as California, New Jersey or New York are concerned, it's not bloody likely, and they probably wouldn't matter anyway, because in the extremely remote chance that Drumph carries them, he would be well beyond 270 EV and victory.
Yet polling done in PA thus far - shows Clinton ahead. The rust belt should be Donnie's base voters.

We'll see.

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Donald Trump tells Californians there is no drought then promises to fix the drought.

Donald Trump tells Californians there is no drought

Trump vows to 'open up the water' in drought-stricken California | PBS NewsHour
Can you believe that??

He will 'open up the water'. Like Moses! And then he'll walk on it.

What fool believes him.
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Old 05-29-2016, 05:43 PM
 
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A Rust Belt strategy is Trump's best bet to get to 270. The Bush path of holding the Romney states (206 electoral votes) plus Florida (29 to get to 235), Ohio (18 to reach 253), Virginia (13 for 266) and Colorado (9 for 275 and the win) is just getting too dicey. Flipping Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin is a sound strategy, though it might be a reach. I don't think Hillary's going to drop a lot of dollars on California and New York because if she loses one of those states, she'll lose anyway. Trump won't invest in Cal or NY to any great extent, anyway. It's typical Trump blarney.

I think you're right about NAFTA. He'll play that card for all it's worth.



Michigan showed NAFTA is a shrewd political move-as it carried Trump & Sanders there. I am free trade, like NAFTA, but this is a populist wave year, and that issue is Populism 101.
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Old 05-29-2016, 06:56 PM
 
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Realclearpolitics average:

PA: Clinton +5.3%
NY: Clinton +21.7%
NJ: Clinton +10.7%
WI: Clinton +11.5%
FL: Clinton +2.0%
OH: Clinton +1.4%
MI: Clinton +10.5%
VA: Clinton +4.3%
CA: Clinton +17.3%
NH: Clinton +8.2%
CT: Clinton +1.0%

Mick
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