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Old 07-11-2016, 04:35 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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That's something I consider a lot, but then I start wondering who would Trump put in there. Has he made any speculations on potential Supreme Court nominees? I heard he was going to put Cruz in charge of finding suitable candidates. sorry, but I'm not socially conservative and that scares me just as much as Hillarys potential choices. His Supreme Court choices are incredibly important, but I'm not going to vote for him if I don't know who hes going to choose, if a slot happens to open. Too many ifs.
Trump has said all along that he would name conservative judges, and made a list of possibilities a while back. As far as I know he has not talked to Ted Cruz, so I'm not sure where you're getting that info, but he has talked to Newt Gingrich about possible picks.
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Old 07-11-2016, 04:43 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Exactly.

Johnson would hurt Trump a lot more than Hillary.

I don't understand how people can't realize that.
Just like Ross Perot. That got us Clinton/Gore. Any Third Party choice will always be a disaster. If Gary Johnson wanted to run, he should have run in the Republican Primary. But to try to worm your way into the White House on a third party ticket will ensure a victory for Progressives, always (in this case, Hillary).
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Old 07-11-2016, 06:46 AM
 
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I agree with 75% of the Libertarian view, outside of environmental issues and Goverments involvement with businesses. I support a Lib who is for State run open market health insurances and mandating legal immigrants those on VISAs to have insurances. Redicing a lot of federal goverment agencies to the State level. Letting States decide how to deal with their own education sysrem. Doing away with the EEO, but employers can't ask about race, gender, ethnicity, criminal history, or disabilitis (Unless in a social service work program). Federal Government expands the NPS, but reduces Indian Affairs and let Native Americans govern thenselves, have less goverment involvement, and more independence. Still providing Healthcare (Universal to NatIve Americans is imporant federal sales tax on that and universal healthcare for people over 65. Additionally, emregency care srevives paid via the State psting 75% of life or death emergency procedures. Still being part of NATO and trade organization. However, doing away with trade deals. Adding requirements with employment and term limits to be on Goverment assistance. A push for finding alternative sustainable energy sources.

With that I am still voting for Johnson.

The current Dem/Rep party is Centuries old with another Century added on when they started. Libertarians are not even a decade old.

I say yes have to have members in Senate to win the house trickle up not down. However, way current electoral is done should be changed so we can go from a 2 party to multi party system.

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Old 07-11-2016, 07:40 AM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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How did Ross Perot work out? Hello Hillary Clinton.
How did Ralph Nader work out? Hello Dubya.
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Old 07-11-2016, 08:25 AM
 
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How did Ralph Nader work out? Hello Dubya.
Gore couldn't even win his home state
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Old 07-11-2016, 08:49 AM
 
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Think 2020 we need a Republican or Democrat libertarian Trojan horse candiate go in and bring change to the current political system
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Old 07-11-2016, 09:48 AM
 
Location: Flawduh
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Most people know so little about political ideologies that they think socialism is just fine, see capitalism as the problem, and someone as corrupt and dishonest as Hillary Clinton as a good choice on the basis of her gender. "I think it's time we have a female president," some have said.

Trump's positives far outweigh any negatives some might attribute to him:
  • Rebuild the military
  • Control the borders
  • Deport those here illegallly
  • Limit or curtail immigration from Muslim countries
  • Reduce the corporate tax rate to a rate on a par with other countries
  • Establish policies that bring business back (such as above) and encorruage entrapreneurship
  • Re-establish common sense engergy policy (coal and oil)
  • End the "Iran deal."
  • Destroy ISIS and take contol of the oil (this should have been done years ago)
  • He has vowed to appoint conservative judges (protect the Constitution)
  • Defend the 2nd Amendment

These are just some of the things I have heard him address in his campaign.
[*]Rebuild the military
That's fine. I agree that we need to spend more money on our own military, versus throwing it away at foreigners.

[*]Control the borders
How? The only thing he's said is that he's going to "build a wall and have Mexico pay for it." How will this get done? Who's going to build it? Who's going to pay for it? Is he going to have construction contractors build it? Kind of like his own establishments, who in turn hire illegal laborers for cheap? I guarantee you very few Americans are going to want to work for ~$10/hr outdoors along the US/Mexico line doing hard manual labor for months on end.

[*]Deport those here illegallly
Makes sense. Unfortunately, our situation is such that scores of businesses are going to shut down as a result.

[*]Limit or curtail immigration from Muslim countries
One of the only points I strongly agree with.

[*]Reduce the corporate tax rate to a rate on a par with other countries
Which will result in a drastic tax increase in other areas. Money has to come from somewhere.

[*]Establish policies that bring business back (such as above) and encorruage entrapreneurship
Most of the businesses that really need help aren't going to be affected by corporate tax breaks. It's mainly going to help the big rigs.

[*]Re-establish common sense engergy policy (coal and oil)
And no longer focus on renewable sources? How is that good?

[*]End the "Iran deal."
Agreed

[*]Destroy ISIS and take contol of the oil (this should have been done years ago)
How will he do this? Aside from what's being done now, there are two options: nuke the place, or get into a full-blown ground battle with them, which is NOT limited to ISIS. What's defeating ISIS going to do when you also have al Nusra, al Qaeda, Ansar Beit al-Maqdis, Boko Haram, al Shebaab... etc. ISIS has just been shoved down our throats by the media, and Trump is taking advantage of it. The other factions are just as deadly and dangerous.

[*]He has vowed to appoint conservative judges (protect the Constitution)
Is it not being protected? (serious question)

[*]Defend the 2nd Amendment
No one is going against the 2nd Amendment. People like to act as though "Obama is coming to take our guns," which is a far cry from the truth. The 2nd Amendment is such that the government may regulate or place some limits on the manufacture, ownership and sale of firearms, which is all that the current government is suggesting. What is Trump going to do different?



My issue with Trump is "HOW?" How is he going to accomplish all of these big goals of his?
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Old 07-11-2016, 10:02 AM
 
Location: North America
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Trump has said all along that he would name conservative judges, and made a list of possibilities a while back. As far as I know he has not talked to Ted Cruz, so I'm not sure where you're getting that info, but he has talked to Newt Gingrich about possible picks.
Anybody that believes Trump is going to nominate ultra conservative judges to the bench is in for a rude awakening. Trump says whatever he wants to people in order to get them on his side. In the end he is going to pick whoever he wants for the job. And considering Trumps past pro liberal statements I wouldn't bet the farm that Anton Scalia 2.0 is going to get the nomination. More than likely you are going to see Merrick Garlands.
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Old 07-11-2016, 10:03 AM
 
Location: North America
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Originally Posted by Arcenal352 View Post
[*]Rebuild the military
That's fine. I agree that we need to spend more money on our own military, versus throwing it away at foreigners.

[*]Control the borders
How? The only thing he's said is that he's going to "build a wall and have Mexico pay for it." How will this get done? Who's going to build it? Who's going to pay for it? Is he going to have construction contractors build it? Kind of like his own establishments, who in turn hire illegal laborers for cheap? I guarantee you very few Americans are going to want to work for ~$10/hr outdoors along the US/Mexico line doing hard manual labor for months on end.

[*]Deport those here illegallly
Makes sense. Unfortunately, our situation is such that scores of businesses are going to shut down as a result.

[*]Limit or curtail immigration from Muslim countries
One of the only points I strongly agree with.

[*]Reduce the corporate tax rate to a rate on a par with other countries
Which will result in a drastic tax increase in other areas. Money has to come from somewhere.

[*]Establish policies that bring business back (such as above) and encorruage entrapreneurship
Most of the businesses that really need help aren't going to be affected by corporate tax breaks. It's mainly going to help the big rigs.

[*]Re-establish common sense engergy policy (coal and oil)
And no longer focus on renewable sources? How is that good?

[*]End the "Iran deal."
Agreed

[*]Destroy ISIS and take contol of the oil (this should have been done years ago)
How will he do this? Aside from what's being done now, there are two options: nuke the place, or get into a full-blown ground battle with them, which is NOT limited to ISIS. What's defeating ISIS going to do when you also have al Nusra, al Qaeda, Ansar Beit al-Maqdis, Boko Haram, al Shebaab... etc. ISIS has just been shoved down our throats by the media, and Trump is taking advantage of it. The other factions are just as deadly and dangerous.

[*]He has vowed to appoint conservative judges (protect the Constitution)
Is it not being protected? (serious question)

[*]Defend the 2nd Amendment
No one is going against the 2nd Amendment. People like to act as though "Obama is coming to take our guns," which is a far cry from the truth. The 2nd Amendment is such that the government may regulate or place some limits on the manufacture, ownership and sale of firearms, which is all that the current government is suggesting. What is Trump going to do different?



My issue with Trump is "HOW?" How is he going to accomplish all of these big goals of his?


Honestly, I don't even think Trump knows nor cares at this point.
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Old 07-11-2016, 11:57 AM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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Gore couldn't even win his home state
Were you then happy with Dubya?

Al Gore would likely NOT have invaded Iraq.
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