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View Poll Results: After hearing Kaine/Pence, who won?
Kaine 37 19.58%
Pence 132 69.84%
Equal 15 7.94%
No idea 5 2.65%
Voters: 189. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 10-05-2016, 01:37 PM
 
Location: FL
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And after all the Bias that the Media has shown for Hillary, the backing of the Administration for Hillary, and the Bias of the Justice Department, and the FBI for Hillary, Trump still scares them to death. Think of what he could do if they supported him instead of a career Criminal.




The Liberals are dreaming of Trump, as the Battery Bunny, beating his drum and crossing the Election finish line ahead of Hillary. That's why they are so desperate and can't sleep nights.
His chances are slim to none.
http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/...-forecast/#now

 
Old 10-05-2016, 01:38 PM
 
Location: FL
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He doesn't have a clue.
 
Old 10-05-2016, 01:44 PM
 
Location: Salinas, CA
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It just means nobody has any room to be sanctimonious about the lack of defending the person at the top of the ticket. If Pence gave little to no policy insights and instead ran down a list of indictments on Clinton, Kaine wouldn't have done much better at defending her. The only reason it looked so one sided is because Pence didn't try to win the debate just by interrupting Kaine and saying "tax returns" ten thousand times.
If Trump would do the very simple act of disclosing those tax returns as every other Presidential candidate does, then the matter would be closed. The Trump campaign whining against this perfectly legitimate request frankly comes across as fake outrage. They are the ones keeping this issue alive by being stubborn.

Even if something questionable is found in them, all Trump has to do is say that he follows the advice of his tax attorney if questioned.
 
Old 10-05-2016, 01:49 PM
 
Location: Huntsville, AL
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Why does Kaine always look like a smelly drunk?
If you were the vp nod for her, wouldn't YOU always look like a smelly drunk?
 
Old 10-05-2016, 01:52 PM
 
Location: Salinas, CA
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LOL !! Trump should at least have had someone else in his campaign do this instead, but he is the last person who has a right to complain.
 
Old 10-05-2016, 01:57 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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The problem with that is that Pence and Trump don't seem to be on the same page on what the "conservative vision" is. It's like they never met or ever listened to each other.
If Pence ever had any future aspirations of higher office, he squashed them when he agreed to be Trump's VP. He will forever be known as the man who ran as Trump's VP. No matter what he accomplished in the past or might accomplish in the future, the fact that he agreed to be Trump's VP will be what he is known for from here on out.

Not only that but Pence will own everything Trump says and does, even in the future. In a sense, Trump will be Pence's eternal running mate, and Pence will never rid himself of the stink of Trump.
 
Old 10-05-2016, 02:36 PM
 
Location: Upstate NY 🇺🇸
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It was painful to watch with all the crosstalk, but clearly Pence would be a much better candidate than Trump.

Look, if they really want to put the kibosh on the interruptions, they should cut one person's microphone while the other one's talking.
 
Old 10-05-2016, 03:35 PM
 
Location: Ft. Myers
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"He didn't even have the intelligence or decency to acknowledge that MOST Mexicans are not the criminals he described."

Do YOU have the "intelligence or decency to acknowledge" to understand that Trump was NOT talking about every Mexican in Mexico BUT, WAS talking about the illegals who break out laws EVER DAY just by being here.

With ALL the American companies with plants in Mexico one would think that those that ARE employable COULD get a job.

MANY of the one's who DO cross out border ILLEGALLY have PROVEN to be illiterate, crooks, thugs, rapist, murderers etc.

I know you and your kind like to IGNORE the facts and twist what is ACTUALLY said but, this is a stretch even for you.

You certainly are a Trump supporter, painting a whole group of people with the same broad brush. Do you even KNOW any illegals so that you can make the statements you have made ? Or, like Trump, do you assume these as facts based on supposition ?

I HAVE known illegals,and still know a couple. They are no different from you and I, they want to make a good life for themselves and their children, something that is NOT available in Mexico.

Something you and your fellow haters overlook is that many of these people provide a valuable service to America......they will work hard at jobs most Americans will not do. Whenever you see some Mexican working 12 hours in the sun, doing landscaping or other hard, manual labor, do you really think they are taking a job from some American ! Hell, my place can't even find Americans who want to work in the air conditioning all day !

Hate to burst your bubble, but they are not all the terrible people you imagine. But your leader told you they are, so it must be true.

Don
 
Old 10-05-2016, 03:51 PM
 
Location: Tampa, FL
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New Hillary ad shows Trump contradicting Mike Pence - Business Insider

This is what Kaine was trying to impress on the audience, but they were too busy watching his eyebrow? We are a stupid nation, aren't we?
 
Old 10-05-2016, 04:19 PM
 
Location: At mah house
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If Trump would do the very simple act of disclosing those tax returns as every other Presidential candidate does, then the matter would be closed. The Trump campaign whining against this perfectly legitimate request frankly comes across as fake outrage. They are the ones keeping this issue alive by being stubborn.

Even if something questionable is found in them, all Trump has to do is say that he follows the advice of his tax attorney if questioned.
I agree, but it's beside the point. The media is making people think Trump not releasing his tax returns is this big deal, and quite frankly it isn't. It's tradition, sure. It denotes a certain amount of transparency. But that's really all it is. The e-mail scandal with Hillary speaks to her character and lack of transparency more than Trump not releasing his tax returns. I kind of think they want to massage that unfortunate detail about Hillary by playing the supposed seriousness of Trump not releasing his tax returns.
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