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Its interesting to see my original post used as the linked post joining a bunch of discussions on this topic. It was one of the worst results I could see being possible at that time, and sure enough here we are.
Since then I have seen a few people try and claim that hey look at this blog where "Look I made up these numbers by unskewing things, Trump won the popular!". Sadly no. Thats nonsense.
Others have tried to claim that absentee ballots aren't being counted, and that will somehow make up the difference. Again, while some states might do that, most are still counting because they need to anyways for the other elections and ballots. So its also nonsense.
The reality is what I feared. We have a president who won the electoral, and lost the popular vote. And that sucks. And as per my original post, it was going to suck no matter WHO won.
With the exception of Thomas Jefferson and John Quincy Adams, Presidential Candidates have had to win the Electoral Vote since the Electoral College was implemented. (When there weren't enough EV, the House of Representatives voted.)
If anything has been consistent over the years, it's the EV. The popular vote has obviously varied.
At the end of the day, even popular candidates still needed the EV. The popular vote is like being the fastest runner with the strongest legs and the best shoes; none of that matters if they don't reach the finish line.
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Too many Trumpies seem to live in their own delusional world. It's hard for the rest of us to know if they are incredibly gullible, or incredibly deceitful, or some combination of the two character flaws.
It will be shocking if anybody ever proves that there are 3,000 fraudulent voters in this national election, let alone 3 million.
Why would you believe it's impossible to prove there had been fraudulent voters?
The non-Partisan groups VoteStand and True the Vote had investigated and verified that more than 3 million non-citizens had voted. They are building a case for legal action.
She did not win the popular vote - deal with it.
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Even if every voter in this election were somehow certified to be 100 percent American citizens, it is likely that the Trumpies would start arguing that shape-shifting, mind-controlling, non-terrestial aliens somehow had stolen the popular vote.
Typical lefty tactic, crying racism and xenophobia to try to shut others down.
The non-Partisan groups VoteStand and True the Vote had investigated and verified that more than 3 million non-citizens had voted. They are building a case for legal action.
When I see 3 million prosecutions or court decisions that confirm such creations, I'll believe it.
Until then, anyone who believes in the likely garbage from organizations such as this one is a well-trained Trumpie, nothing more IMO.
You know that is not true. Without the third parties the voters involved will split between the two primary candidates. The vote is for the third party guy. Not against someone else.
Trump is President by a quirk in the US system that favors small states. Simple as that.
You're starting to sound like Marco Rubio. "I would have won if it wasn't for (fill in the blank)." The fact is, the 3rd party voters did NOT vote for Hillary. Johnson got 4 million votes, Stein got a million, Trump got 60 million, that is 65 million people who did NOT vote for Hillary Clinton. It's not like she wasn't on the ballot, they chose NOT to vote for her. So, again, Hillary did not get "most of the votes". She got 60 million. Another 65 million said "no" to her.
And according to the rules of the electoral college, which is what determines who wins and loses, she lost. A loser.
Trump 290, clinton 228.
Though your denial to admit she lost, trying to see positive in a loss, is quite amusing. It's like someone's football team losing and saying "they got way more field goals.....if only those field goals were worth 8 points instead of 3, they'd be winners!
The denial is all very amusing. But try acceptance of what is and what can't be changed. It's much more ideal I think.
It's also like adding up all the runs in a World Series and saying that a team is the real winner because they scored more over 7 games even though they lost 4 of the games
Based on? Seriously, she won the popular vote,, the only time people have claimed otherwise was when they failed in their ability to understand the CNN website.
You're starting to sound like Marco Rubio. "I would have won if it wasn't for (fill in the blank)." The fact is, the 3rd party voters did NOT vote for Hillary. Johnson got 4 million votes, Stein got a million, Trump got 60 million, that is 65 million people who did NOT vote for Hillary Clinton. It's not like she wasn't on the ballot, they chose NOT to vote for her. So, again, Hillary did not get "most of the votes". She got 60 million. Another 65 million said "no" to her.
Sorry but your post is babbling...nonsense.
Clinton lost. Done deal.
But she won the popular vote by a significant margin. Get your head around. Trump is President for the next four years. But he must always lead while acknowledging that Clinton had more votes and therefor more support.
Tough but that happens in life.
Maybe one day we will have a system where you get to rate the candidates one,two,three. Be interesting but not this election. Trump won the election. Clinton won the popular vote.
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