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Old 01-06-2017, 03:33 AM
 
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Perhaps they infiltrated Bill Clinton's mind in the 90s to make him think NAFTA was good to support, costing his wife the Rust Belt working class vote.

 
Old 01-06-2017, 03:57 AM
 
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Please explain

Russia hacked the ballot boxes during the Republican primaries and the General election.
 
Old 01-06-2017, 05:35 AM
 
Location: DFW
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Why would Russia want someone to win who wants to rebuild and have a strong Military?
 
Old 01-06-2017, 05:36 AM
 
Location: DFW
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Russia hacked the ballot boxes during the Republican primaries and the General election.
Yes, in California. We should throw out the results of that state entirely.
 
Old 01-06-2017, 06:12 AM
 
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So Russia was only involved in the states that Clinton won?

'Kin 'ell guys, give this a rest. If the Russkies had any influence, it was only the influence that our used to have back in the day when there was invesigative journalism and not the collective hivemind of propaganda we are subjected to and have honestly rejected. The info was never refuted, and enough of the country finally said enough. My question would be "what does it say that the Russians would even need to do this?"

PS-the Russians didn't do it. No matter what Mad Dog McCain says on his Strangelove journey to WW3. We aren't lstening to the Jurassic Park wing of either partyand it's time to put the whole bunch of them into their jammies and paper slippers.
 
Old 01-06-2017, 06:13 AM
 
Location: Ocean Shores, WA
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Why would Russia want someone to win who wants to rebuild and have a strong Military?
If you could choose the leader of your main enemy, would you prefer a seasoned politician with international experience, or a know nothing blowhard with personality problems?
 
Old 01-06-2017, 06:17 AM
 
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Russia got involved by leaking Clintons aides emails, and the DNC's emails. This was a major discussion point, and it damaged Clinton quite a bit. The race was decided by very narrow margins.
So it's your point it was the Truth that damaged the Clintons and DNC?
 
Old 01-06-2017, 06:20 AM
 
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If you could choose the leader of your main enemy, would you prefer a seasoned politician with international experience, or a know nothing blowhard with personality problems?
Here's the calculation.
  • Hillary Clinton - Demonstrated time & time again that she will sell policy decisions for the right price. Russians already know this. They gave Bill Clinton a $1 million speaking fee, and few weeks later Hillary approved a huge sale of US Uranium to Russia.
  • Donald Trump - Says it's aways about the "deal". If Russians want to work with Trump they will have to negotiate.
Based on that the choice is easy. Putin takes Hillary.

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Old 01-06-2017, 06:23 AM
 
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Please explain
I think the sabotage job by Comey had more to do with it than Russia.
 
Old 01-06-2017, 06:39 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Russia got involved by leaking Clintons aides emails, and the DNC's emails. This was a major discussion point, and it damaged Clinton quite a bit. The race was decided by very narrow margins.

Additionally Russia financed and ran many propaganda campaigns. And did a impressive job online. I suspect we have some here (Hi guys!). Efforts on other discussion forums however were wildly sucessful.

The level of propaganda and misinformation has led to a mistrust of the media (some of which is warranted, but not to the degree its there). Which also helped Trumps sort of campaign.

Basically were it not for the Russians interference helping only one side-the other side would have won. Making the popular vote result all the more painful.

What will happen? President Trump will be sworn in on January 20th, to a even more divided country. That will be his legacy upon entering the presidency. From there? How it will read will depend on him, and I dont think anyone has a clue what its going to be like. Given the stuff I see now.....we're going to live in interesting times.
If they talk about Hillary's stupidity about her unsecure server then it would have more credibility. They side step that fact knowing that China, Russia and other countries hack our systems daily.

We also know that Obama interfered into the reelection of Netanyahu but that is ok. gives this political fake story zero credibility as far as being such a big story.

We also know the United States hacks our friends in Germany. Obama hates the only friend we have in the middle east .Stabbing Israel in the back. Obama wants to wipe Israel off the map . He is a muslim at heart.. Disgraceful. Liberals don't talk about all the things that the Obama administration did to manipulate Hillary getting elected as well as the IRS going after the conservatives , hampering their efforts to defeat Obama at the polls. So get real liberals. You are definitely as corrupt as hell!
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