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Old 03-08-2017, 08:00 PM
 
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and they were correct. She does.


Democrats identity politics is root cause of their 1,000 lost seats since 1-20-2009 at fed or state level.
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Old 03-08-2017, 08:31 PM
 
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Post summer Convention - aka crunch time - Hillary did more events in each of these states individually: California, Massachusetts, and New York - than she did in these 3 states combined: Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin.

Hillary ran her campaign as if she owed more to big donors in big business liberal states for a popular vote election. It is as if she didn't realize blue collar workers weren't chained to the democratic party and there was an electoral college in existence.

In other words, in the biggest event of her life, she made continually horrible decisions with strategy over and over again.

How Clinton lost Michigan — and blew the election - POLITICO
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Old 03-08-2017, 08:59 PM
 
Location: Glendale NY
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Post summer Convention - aka crunch time - Hillary did more events in each of these states individually: California, Massachusetts, and New York - than she did in these 3 states combined: Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin.

Hillary ran her campaign as if she owed more to big donors in big business liberal states for a popular vote election. It is as if she didn't realize blue collar workers weren't chained to the democratic party and there was an electoral college in existence.

In other words, in the biggest event of her life, she made continually horrible decisions with strategy over and over again.

How Clinton lost Michigan — and blew the election - POLITICO
Did Hillary even know about the Electorial College? Or did she think elections are determined by popular vote? What a dummy.
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Old 03-09-2017, 07:45 AM
 
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Hillary Clinton only cared about being the first woman POTUS. I believe they found a way to cheat in a few states and thus didn't worry about them and she pandered to the illegal aliens and then Obama picked up the slack in that Hispanic commercial where he was on the down low encouraging illegal aliens to vote without fear. I think the illegal aliens, some of them, were smart enough to know that if they put themselves out there and Hillary lost, they could be on the bus to the border quicker.

The Democratic Party needs to take personal responsibility for the loss of Hillary Clinton. With her as the candidate, the presidency was delivered to Trump on a silver platter. Hillary Clinton was in a constant state of self-destruction throughout the campaign.

That promise that Hillary Clinton made about jobs in NY for which she did not deliver, they actually lost jobs in the area where they were needed, along with her stating she would put a lot of coal miners out of work, chewed a big portion of her support away. Whoever was tweaking her meds wasn't doing a very good job!
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Old 03-09-2017, 11:35 AM
 
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In the end the problem remained the same as 2008. Clinton had a likeability problem. Trump is very polarizing but the people who like him, love him. Hillary was someone who had supporters who openly had to talk themselves into voting for her. And a lot of her support was of the 'not Trump variety." When you add her inability to connect to a lot of working class and rural folks you see a problem. Running a crappy campaign only exacerbated it. The fact that she leaned so heavily on big fundraiser created a double edged sword of sending her to the most D leaning areas too often and placing her in front of big money donors when that was already one of the biggest criticisms of her campaign and policies.


If you contrast her with Obama you will notice he made a point of diving into more R friendly areas head on. Not because he would win but to lesser his losing percentage/drive up his portion of the vote. Hillary both underperformed in the Urban areas (Wayne Co in Muchigan, Dane in WI and the Philly suburbs) and let her deficit in rural areas get to large.


It wasn't a matter of showing up and not having the preferred method- she didn't show up.
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Old 03-09-2017, 11:47 AM
 
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In the end the problem remained the same as 2008. Clinton had a likeability problem. Trump is very polarizing but the people who like him, love him. Hillary was someone who had supporters who openly had to talk themselves into voting for her. And a lot of her support was of the 'not Trump variety." When you add her inability to connect to a lot of working class and rural folks you see a problem. Running a crappy campaign only exacerbated it. The fact that she leaned so heavily on big fundraiser created a double edged sword of sending her to the most D leaning areas too often and placing her in front of big money donors when that was already one of the biggest criticisms of her campaign and policies.


If you contrast her with Obama you will notice he made a point of diving into more R friendly areas head on. Not because he would win but to lesser his losing percentage/drive up his portion of the vote. Hillary both underperformed in the Urban areas (Wayne Co in Muchigan, Dane in WI and the Philly suburbs) and let her deficit in rural areas get to large.


It wasn't a matter of showing up and not having the preferred method- she didn't show up.
Her losses in Michigan, Wisc and Pa. Were because those people were left behind the last eight years and by not bothering to give them even a tokens worth of acknowledgement it was clear she would do the same.
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Old 03-09-2017, 01:43 PM
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Clinton campaign tv ads were almost entirely policy free.
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Old 03-09-2017, 02:06 PM
 
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Did Hillary even know about the Electorial College? Or did she think elections are determined by popular vote? What a dummy.
I just think she has that elitist mentality that states like Michigan, Wisconsin or Pennsylvania are sort of beneath her. That's where blue collar, peasants live.
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Old 03-09-2017, 02:36 PM
 
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Clinton campaign tv ads were almost entirely policy free.
Her strategy of only attacking Trump, while avoiding policy & press conferences was close to brilliant, imo. She really had nothing to sell to Liberals. Corruption, corporations & war basically. She's also one of those people that the more you hear her speak, the less you like her. Laying low and hoping Trump would hang himself was an unconventional, but shrewd ploy, imo. What she did screw up through was ignoring middle America. The same way many of those people were already feeling...like their votes didn't matter to the D's anymore, that the D's had abandoned them, that the D's had turned on them, is exactly how Hillary was treating them.
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Old 03-09-2017, 03:31 PM
 
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Clinton campaign tv ads were almost entirely policy free.
They were of the race baiting type here in North Carolina. Her adverts against Bernie included Trayvon Martin.

Amusing thing about it, Hillary appears to loath Black people given her real history. (got a bottle of hot sauce in that purse)
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