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Old 05-03-2017, 06:05 AM
 
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This is like the bank robber saying "without that surveillance video, I never would have been caught".
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Old 05-03-2017, 06:09 AM
 
Location: Ft. Myers
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This is like the bank robber saying "without that surveillance video, I never would have been caught".
Uh huh, or a man who gets caught talking about grabbing a married womans' ________ on video, and who passes it off as "locker room banter". Yeah, pretty much the same.
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Old 05-03-2017, 06:10 AM
 
Location: NC
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Wait a minute, wait a minute ! You actually have the nerve to bring up that Hillary is blaming everyone, when your boy can not open his mouth once without making some poisonous comment about how everyone from the Pope to the news media is causing all of his problems ?

I mean, we will accept a certain degree of hypocrisy from your side, but to even put Hillarys' complaints in the same league as those made by Donald Trump is way beyond apples and oranges. Trump can not even host an event at a religious gathering without throwing in some barb about how everyone is against him.

All I can say is............
^THIS

And I'll add that Hillary was asked, she answered. Her first response was that "I was the candidate, and I accept responsibility". She not only has a right to say, but an obligation to answer the question fully. Nobody will ever know for sure if the meddling of Comey and the Wikileaks was what swayed the election. NOBODY can say it did, or did not, we just won't know, but it's absolutely fair what she said.

She said she was on path to win (debatable but not patently true or false), and that with 10-days left, the director of the FBI said he had damning evidence, then when it was all over, he said "oh, nevermind, nothing to see here". She said that it swayed some people who might have been on the fence. Scared them away from voting for her. That is absolutely true. We don't know if it would have ended differently if Comey didn't illegally meddle in the election, but we do know that he did.

She did not blame her loss on that, she (correctly) stated that it was likely a factor. Add that to the wikileaks, add that to all the unfavorable press on accusations that were never proven, add that to the fact that she's just not likeable, and add that to the fact that she ran a flawed campaign and ignored a few critical states. THEN add that to the fact that people are TIRED of politics as usual, and she is the poster-child for politics as usual, and you have your answer.

But to summarize, we simply don't know what the outcome would have been if you remove the Comey and Wikileaks interference. We just don't know. Anyone, on either side who says otherwise is either misinformed, or lying.
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Old 05-03-2017, 06:12 AM
 
Location: Boston
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^THIS

And I'll add that Hillary was asked, she answered. Her first response was that "I was the candidate, and I accept responsibility". She not only has a right to say, but an obligation to answer the question fully. Nobody will ever know for sure if the meddling of Comey and the Wikileaks was what swayed the election. NOBODY can say it did, or did not, we just won't know, but it's absolutely fair what she said.

She said she was on path to win (debatable but not patently true or false), and that with 10-days left, the director of the FBI said he had damning evidence, then when it was all over, he said "oh, nevermind, nothing to see here". She said that it swayed some people who might have been on the fence. Scared them away from voting for her. That is absolutely true. We don't know if it would have ended differently if Comey didn't illegally meddle in the election, but we do know that he did.

She did not blame her loss on that, she (correctly) stated that it was likely a factor. Add that to the wikileaks, add that to all the unfavorable press on accusations that were never proven, add that to the fact that she's just not likeable, and add that to the fact that she ran a flawed campaign and ignored a few critical states. THEN add that to the fact that people are TIRED of politics as usual, and she is the poster-child for politics as usual, and you have your answer.

But to summarize, we simply don't know what the outcome would have been if you remove the Comey and Wikileaks interference. We just don't know. Anyone, on either side who says otherwise is either misinformed, or lying.
I agree Hillary is a liar for making this claim.
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Old 05-03-2017, 06:12 AM
 
Location: NC
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They did..they didnt vote for the corrupt, lying hag.
Fair enough, Trump is not a hag.
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Old 05-03-2017, 06:15 AM
 
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Well, she did receive 3 million more votes than the Trump. However, lost by 80,000 votes in the electoral states of Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and Michigan.

Seems to me the electoral college needs to go away. To easy to manipulate the system. With the popular vote, not so easy. Only in America, you can win the popular vote and lose. (Of course. places like Russia, they seem to have their own nasty elections.)

3 million votes, that is a lot of people that voted for Hillary and those votes are just nothing???

I do agree that Comey had a huge part, in turning people off. Just before an election, making crass remarks about a candidate????
Running up the vote in one state is like pressing an elevator button more than once. It does not make a difference.
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Old 05-03-2017, 06:16 AM
 
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has she announced for 2020 yet?
She is pimping her brat Chelsea for office somewhere. She is now the Angela Landsbury character from "The Manchurian Candidate".
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Old 05-03-2017, 06:16 AM
 
Location: Southeastern North Carolina
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She did say "I was the candidate, and I accept responsibility". And those are words that you'll never hear from Trump.
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Old 05-03-2017, 06:20 AM
 
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She did say "I was the candidate, and I accept responsibility". And those are words that you'll never hear from Trump.
Her answer should have ended right there. Instead, she rattled off a bunch of excuses all of her own making. It all started with her trying to hide her communications with the public using a private email server.
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Old 05-03-2017, 06:23 AM
 
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Uh huh, or a man who gets caught talking about grabbing a married womans' ________ on video, and who passes it off as "locker room banter". Yeah, pretty much the same.
Very close.
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