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Old 11-08-2017, 10:25 PM
 
Location: Eugene, Oregon
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This NYT article in the link below, was sweet music to ears tired of a whole year of the Trump insanity. In local, county and state elections in many parts of the country, many GOP candidates, who were favored just a few months ago, lost to the opposition. Governor's and mayor's offices, as well as county positions, went to democratic candidates. The Washington State Legislature is now completely controlled by democrats, as are those of the other two West Coast states.

The voters in suburban areas, which had fairly low turnouts in 2016, came out in large numbers, to overthrow those linked to Trump. This is not a brief flash of resistance, but the start of a major re-taking of territory. A hard lesson was learned, but it doesn't look like voter apathy will allow anyone to weasel into office by default, in the future.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/08/u...ress.html?_r=0
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Old 11-08-2017, 10:54 PM
 
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This NYT article in the link below, was sweet music to ears tired of a whole year of the Trump insanity. In local, county and state elections in many parts of the country, many GOP candidates, who were favored just a few months ago, lost to the opposition. Governor's and mayor's offices, as well as county positions, went to democratic candidates. The Washington State Legislature is now completely controlled by democrats, as are those of the other two West Coast states.

The voters in suburban areas, which had fairly low turnouts in 2016, came out in large numbers, to overthrow those linked to Trump. This is not a brief flash of resistance, but the start of a major re-taking of territory. A hard lesson was learned, but it doesn't look like voter apathy will allow anyone to weasel into office by default, in the future.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/08/u...ress.html?_r=0
West coast and East coast wins like in WA, NJ, NY and VA are hardly big losses for Republicans or huge wins for Dems... it's expected...these states been blue and will be blue in 2020 and beyond.
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Old 11-08-2017, 11:25 PM
 
Location: Sector 001
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Just part of the ebb and flow of politics. If people are dumb enough to vote blindly for a party because they don't like the guy in the other party, they deserve what they get.
Still you don't want either party having too much power in any given state either.. better if it swings back and forth with a little gridlock thrown in.

Both parties are filled with stattist nutcases that want to take away all your rights because they think they know what's good for you, and want to protect everyone from everything. I suppose it's better than anarchy, though.

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Old 11-08-2017, 11:31 PM
 
Location: Eugene, Oregon
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West coast and East coast wins like in WA, NJ, NY and VA are hardly big losses for Republicans or huge wins for Dems... it's expected...these states been blue and will be blue in 2020 and beyond.

Maybe you should read the article at the link I posted. You might not be so comfortable in your interpretation of the situation, if you did. I noticed something significant I hadn't caught the first time through. Virginia's House of Delegates, which was described as being so heavily gerrymandered by the Republicans, that their majority there was "virtually unassailable", was almost taken over by many new democrats who were elected on Nov. 7th. If the Republican Majorities in some of those skewed districts wouldn't vote for candidates of their own party, that tells us something.
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Old 11-08-2017, 11:35 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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This NYT article in the link below, was sweet music to ears tired of a whole year of the Trump insanity. In local, county and state elections in many parts of the country, many GOP candidates, who were favored just a few months ago, lost to the opposition. Governor's and mayor's offices, as well as county positions, went to democratic candidates. The Washington State Legislature is now completely controlled by democrats, as are those of the other two West Coast states.

The voters in suburban areas, which had fairly low turnouts in 2016, came out in large numbers, to overthrow those linked to Trump. This is not a brief flash of resistance, but the start of a major re-taking of territory. A hard lesson was learned, but it doesn't look like voter apathy will allow anyone to weasel into office by default, in the future.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/08/u...ress.html?_r=0


I didn't notice any change in the landscape. Progressive Communist regions stayed Progressive Communist and Constitutional Conservative regions stayed Constitutional Conservative.
The guy in Virginia... Gillespie, is a George Bush Establishment guy. He is a never Trumper. Toxic GW. even campaigned for him.
The Democrat said he would work with Trump and got elected.
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Old 11-08-2017, 11:59 PM
 
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Voters in blue states voted for some Democrats?

What a surprise.

Not.

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Old 11-09-2017, 12:06 AM
 
Location: Eugene, Oregon
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I didn't notice any change in the landscape. Progressive Communist regions stayed Progressive Communist and Constitutional Conservative regions stayed Constitutional Conservative.
The guy in Virginia... Gillespie, is a George Bush Establishment guy. He is a never Trumper. Toxic GW. even campaigned for him.
The Democrat said he would work with Trump and got elected.
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Voters in blue states voted for some Democrats?

What a surprise.

Not.

It's encouraging for me to read comments from people like you, which are intended to stifle the importance of the subject I've posted. Because then, I know that the situation is headed in a good direction.
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Old 11-09-2017, 04:25 AM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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I didn't notice any change in the landscape. Progressive Communist regions stayed Progressive Communist and Constitutional Conservative regions stayed Constitutional Conservative.
The guy in Virginia... Gillespie, is a George Bush Establishment guy. He is a never Trumper. Toxic GW. even campaigned for him.
The Democrat said he would work with Trump and got elected.
There is no communism anywhere in this country, stop being disingenuous
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Old 11-09-2017, 06:07 AM
 
Location: Eugene, Oregon
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I didn't notice any change in the landscape. Progressive Communist regions stayed Progressive Communist and Constitutional Conservative regions stayed Constitutional Conservative.
The guy in Virginia... Gillespie, is a George Bush Establishment guy. He is a never Trumper. Toxic GW. even campaigned for him.
The Democrat said he would work with Trump and got elected.
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There is no communism anywhere in this country, stop being disingenuous

We can expect some very strange and nonsensical claims by these people, as they grasp at anything they can, to deflect attention from the impending fall of their ersatz pretender to the throne.
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Old 11-09-2017, 07:38 AM
 
Location: Atlanta metro (Cobb County)
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Just part of the ebb and flow of politics. If people are dumb enough to vote blindly for a party because they don't like the guy in the other party, they deserve what they get.
Still you don't want either party having too much power in any given state either.. better if it swings back and forth with a little gridlock thrown in.

Both parties are filled with stattist nutcases that want to take away all your rights because they think they know what's good for you, and want to protect everyone from everything. I suppose it's better than anarchy, though.
Even though the nation appears to be very polarized today, I think there is still room for such a party skeptical viewpoint. America's center of gravity is not far left or far right, but realistically much of the time the only choices on the ballot can represent such positions rather than a more independent stance. 34 out of 50 states now have either full Republican (26) or Democratic (8) control, and of course this is true at the federal level as well. But the independent voters have historically pushed back when one side is getting too dominant, and this is likely happening now.
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