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View Poll Results: Best Democrat to run against Trump 2020
Senator Elizabeth Warren - Massachusetts 4 14.29%
Senator Bernie Sanders - Vermont (independent running as Dem) 10 35.71%
Governor Andrew Cuomo - New York 4 14.29%
Former FLOTUS Michelle Obama - Illinois 2 7.14%
Senator Hillary Clinton (yes again) 8 28.57%
Voters: 28. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 03-11-2019, 12:48 PM
 
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That is surely a sad list of losers. But of that list, ironically, the only one who has the best chance of beating Trump, is none other than Hillary Clinton.
  • Pocahontas - DNA fiasco and lying about being an Indian, for decades, has ruint this woman's chances. And she's too self absorbed to realize it.
  • Sanders - DNC isn't going to let him get near the nomination. And even if he was nominated, Trump will wind him up like a top and he'll go spinning off to bounce against the walls.
  • Cuomo - Poser like his dad. Lots of talk, but absolutely unable to deal with a real election. These days he's left groveling to Jeff Bezo.
  • Michelle Obama - At best will get the AA vote and deranged Trump haters. Would be a pretty bad embarrassing loss.
None of them has it in them to beat Trump. Hillary on the other hand, has at least shown that she can pull off a national campaign, twice. She won't beat Trump, but she'll go further than this list of never wuzes and has beens.

 
Old 03-11-2019, 01:15 PM
 
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After last night's townhall, I think maybe Buttigieg. Unbelievably good--I know he's young--but he could decimate Trump in a debate without one iota of emotion or fear.
This

Perhaps as VP for a 1 term old white man, then he's good for 2 terms.

But IMO, Bernie cannot win in the general and neither can Biden. The Rs will make Bernie out to be the second coming of Lenin, Marx and Castro combined and Biden will be a child molester.
 
Old 03-11-2019, 10:21 PM
 
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I really have no idea about Clinton, but what possible reason would you have for asserting that Obama, who is married to a woman, is gay?
Are you SERIOUS?
 
Old 03-11-2019, 10:24 PM
 
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Best chance for Dems is Amy Klobuchar who seems to be a normal woman close to the center. However, the Dems will likely nominate Kamala Harris who is even worse than HRC and lose again in 2020.

The best hope that the Dems have is Beto O'Rourke. He is an awesome campaigner who can inspire the Midwesterners. He couldn't win in Texas because the conservative voters are so rigid/inelastic, but he stands a chance in areas where they vote more for the "man" than the "party"
 
Old 03-11-2019, 10:38 PM
 
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If the democrats were smart, they would run a Biden/Bernie ticket. Early polling shows that Biden & Bernie are the far and away top two favorites among democratic voters, nobody else even comes close.

In theory, dems can hope that Biden will help win over moderate dems and independents, and Bernie will bring in all the far-right liberals/progressives.

One thing dems have going for them now that they didn't in 2016 is unity in their dislike for Trump. In 2016, many Bernie supporters did not show up to the voting booths because they didn't like Hillary.

But Clinton is out of the picture now (thank God), and democrats are unified in their dislike for Trump (much like conservatives were unified in 2016 with their hatred of Obama).

The best way to beat Trump in 2020 (if he's still in office by then) is to run a Biden/Bernie ticket, that way you have both ends of the democratic spectrum covered, from moderates/independents to liberal progressives. democrats in between will all fall in line.

I think Trump probably loses the popular vote again like he did in 2016, but it depends on the big swing states whether or not he gets the electoral college.
I would have written the same thing. In the poll, there's no one to vote for but in reality, Bernie is really well liked even though too radical and Biden is just plain good ol' Joe, very likable and moderate.

Between the two of them, they would win it. (Somebody needs to start a realistic poll composed of people who could actually be running.)
 
Old 03-11-2019, 10:42 PM
 
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I really have no idea about Clinton, but what possible reason would you have for asserting that Obama, who is married to a woman, is gay?
Michelle is gay?
 
Old 03-11-2019, 10:52 PM
 
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If they want to win? Zooming out moderate beats leftist (less turnout of marginal conservative voters in opposition), minority beats white (more turnout of their own base). Talking individuals Booker and Biden, both of whom aren't on this list, are probably their strongest candidates.

Kamala Harris would not be a terrible strategic choice either, and Andrew Yang could be a weird populist play. Bernie or Warren would be a mistake, the people revved up for them already show up to the polls consistently and they'd drive unhappy traditional Republicans and people who don't consistently vote to show up in opposition.
 
Old 03-11-2019, 11:01 PM
 
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Bogus poll. Cuomo, Obama and Clinton aren't running.

But John Hickenlooper is, and I think he or Sherrod Brown are the two smartest candidates.

Of them, I think Hickenlooper actually stands a better chance of winning the nomination if he becomes better known.
 
Old 03-11-2019, 11:01 PM
 
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These are our choices to run against Trump and it’s not likely these choices will change
The smartest DimocRAT would be the one who DOESN'T run.
 
Old 03-12-2019, 12:14 AM
 
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The smartest DimocRAT would be the one who DOESN'T run.
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