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Old 09-08-2019, 04:19 AM
 
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While I don't agree with all his policies for me he invokes the most optimism. Curious what you guys think that have dug deeper into his campaign. Is it me or is no one is laying out as much well thought out policy as Andrew? Perhaps the advantage of not being a career politician.


*$1000/month UBI via 10% Vat Tax on top tier S&P companies (needs some fine tuning but makes more sense then trying to create jobs out of thin air)
*Healthcare for all (along with private care availability)
*$1 Trillion Infrastructure plan over 5 years (long overdue)
*legalize marijuana (retail sales could use this injection)
*raise President wages to $4M flat with no ability to take on speech work after presidency (kill incentive)
*make voting online a requirement via blockchain (long overdue)
*12 year congressional term limit (long overdue)
*term limits for supreme courts judges
*end for profit private prisons (big issue)
*campaign finance reform (long overdue)


Pretty good long form dialogue here. Much better than the short sound bites that major news outlets are spewing.

https://youtu.be/PlwG-XVBQJ4
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Old 09-08-2019, 04:52 AM
 
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Yang's plan has a lot of depth to it. In his bio on his website, there was mention that Yang has been working on it for many years.

You're right; the soundbites don't capture the plan very well at all. It's big, all inter-connected, and actually pretty easy to understand after everything is read. Reading it was like reading a book; one has to start at the beginning and go to the end to understand it. Reading a chapter in the middle would only be confusing or misunderstood.

When one small piece of it is presented, each piece is more controversial than the entire plan is.

There are parts I think would work, and parts I doubt would work. But overall, I think it has the potential to really turn the country around and put it back on course if most of it was implemented. It would cause a huge social change if it happened.
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Old 09-08-2019, 04:58 AM
 
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He is no better than the other pack of idiots handing out free stuff. By giving out free money means he gets the deadbeat vote.

Work for your money or starve
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Old 09-08-2019, 05:05 AM
 
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Andrew Yang is the only candidate who is honest about the reality of human beings. He understands that people have varying capabilities and that some people have a limit as to what they can learn and accomplish. Both the Left and Right promote a false narrative based around the idea that all people have equal potential.
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Old 09-08-2019, 05:16 AM
 
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Yang's plan has a lot of depth to it. In his bio on his website, there was mention that Yang has been working on it for many years.

You're right; the soundbites don't capture the plan very well at all. It's big, all inter-connected, and actually pretty easy to understand after everything is read. Reading it was like reading a book; one has to start at the beginning and go to the end to understand it. Reading a chapter in the middle would only be confusing or misunderstood.

When one small piece of it is presented, each piece is more controversial than the entire plan is.

There are parts I think would work, and parts I doubt would work. But overall, I think it has the potential to really turn the country around and put it back on course if most of it was implemented. It would cause a huge social change if it happened.

I've not looked on his site just watched him in the above video and with Ben Shapiro which was another good watch. A bit surprised Ben wasn't able to really shoot him down. Andrew definitely has some libertarian views being a bit more progressive though. It was interesting to hear that he's created so many jobs in bad areas throughout the country.

With so many mom's having to work now and kids being raised by daycares the UBI plan I think appeals to families that vote. Might be a good injection in improving society and our value system.

His stance on automation taking over in the near future is right on the money. Many retail and/or restaurants have self checkout features now. Malls are becoming ghost towns and Amazon is mowing everyone over, yet no other candidates are addressing these things?

I don't know I'm all for smaller government but we are facing a huge consolidation in this next down turn. If he can successfully purge the system and set term limits and impose campaign finance reform he may have the brains and open mindedness to gain back respect for our govt.
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Old 09-08-2019, 05:25 AM
 
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Warren has laid out a more detailed agenda, but Yang has impressed me so far.
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Old 09-08-2019, 05:29 AM
 
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He is no better than the other pack of idiots handing out free stuff. By giving out free money means he gets the deadbeat vote.

Work for your money or starve
There's quite a contrast if you dig a little past the surface.

$1000/month is not really enough to survive on imo. And who isn't in favor of a 10% tax on the monopolies that rule the top 20 S&P? The only thing I could maybe see differently is making it a wealth or progressive tax vs a VAT, but I'm afraid that would shock the economy and create too much inflation. Where as a VAT tax would be splitting the difference and be a baked in price.

These companies are and WILL be automating as many jobs as they can.

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Old 09-08-2019, 05:35 AM
 
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This is the interview that did it for me.

Yang on Joe Rogan Podcast

From the late March when I became YangGang, not even being American, I'm not fighting for 1000dollars freedom dividend in my pocket, but want to see politics change its paradigm and Andrew Yang is the one who can ignite that transformation. What he says about trickle-up economy, I also hope for trickle over politics.

You can find ppl like him, no matter how few. But you couldn't find them in politics until now. If you look at politicians, many are smart, most are hardworking, some are very successful in their efforts, a few are even enlightened souls. But can you find all that in one person? That's what I'm talking about. Americans should consider themselves lucky that one such person has decided to sacrifice his family time and put his entrepreneurship on hold to run this thing. I think his supporters either know or feel this and it is more important to them than UBI.

From the left you'll hear that his UBI proposal aims to kill welfare system, from the right that it is socialism. That someone is criticized from both camps at the same time often means he is right Funny situation I have found myself in: trying to convince Americans that they deserve this dividend,because it's their economy, work, the infrastructure they built and the customer base that enabled giants like Amazon and Apple. Elon Musk announced his support of Yang last month.

This doesn't mean I agree with each and every single one of his politics, but I wouldn't let perfect stand in the way of something good or even great.

Yang's book can be listened to here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MC25cPvp4zg&t=2004s
He obviously has nothing against allowing people to listen to it for free, otherwise he would have taken it down a long time ago. It can be purchased on Amazon, too.

Anyway, some Yang threads going on here in Elections sub-forum
Andrew Yang 2020 Presidential Candidate

Yang - Why doesn't he get more traction

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Old 09-08-2019, 06:36 AM
 
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I am voting for Yang in April!
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Old 09-08-2019, 06:56 AM
 
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LOL

he can't explain the basic math behind his $1K gimmick, or prove it wont go to illegals, and non citizens.

Yang is as much a joke as Warren. Bernie is just as non serious as well.

The only real top tier real democrats are Biden, and Kamala, Mayor Pete.
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