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Old 05-07-2008, 02:33 PM
 
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I must give Obama credit for his marketing campaign. Brilliant slogan, and images and footage of the man surrounded by his slogans connected to enthusiastic supporters certainly have an impact on viewers' votes and their susceptibility to be swayed in his favor.

I'm not a U.S. citizen and I can thus not vote nor am I affiliated with any of the candidates, and I'm a psychology major and former sales man. I find it disturbing that Obama, associated with that alleged change we can believe in, changes his own beliefs about a long-time friend who wed Obama to his wife and baptized his children. This change of Obama's mind was brought on because of popular opinion, and that's not a change you should believe in.

20 years of friendship to Reverend Wright equals a significant impact on Obama, his family, and their past experiences, and a sudden change of heart brought on by external opinions is not a change to believe in. Remember that next time you see the slogan, "A change to believe in", that the hardest change to make is one contradicting long-term experience, and keep Reverend Wright's face in mind when you think about that change and see those slogans.

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Old 05-07-2008, 02:46 PM
 
Location: San Antonio North
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I must give Obama credit for his marketing campaign. Brilliant slogan, and images and footage of the man surrounded by his slogans connected to enthusiastic supporters certainly have an impact on viewers' votes and their susceptibility to be swayed in his favor.

I'm not a U.S. citizen and I can thus not vote nor am I affiliated with any of the candidates, and I'm a psychology major and former sales man. I find it disturbing that Obama, associated with that alleged change we can believe in, changes his own beliefs about a long-time friend who wed Obama to his wife and baptized his children. This change of Obama's mind was brought on because of popular opinion, and that's not a change you should believe in.

20 years of friendship to Reverend Wright equals a significant impact on Obama, his family, and their past experiences, and a sudden change of heart brought on by external opinions is not a change to believe in. Remember that next time you see the slogan, "A change to believe in", that the hardest change to make is one contradicting long-term experience, and keep Reverend Wright's face in mind when you think about that change and see those slogans.
His supporters do not care and can not see him for what he is a politician trying to get elected all the while saying he is a new kinda politician.
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Old 05-07-2008, 04:51 PM
 
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His supporters do not care and can not see him for what he is a politician trying to get elected all the while saying he is a new kinda politician.
Yah! Lets vote for Hillary. Now there's an honest truthful politician for you! Give me a break! No, we don't care about Rev. Wright since Obama is running for President, not Rev. Wright.
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Old 05-07-2008, 05:05 PM
 
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I must give Obama credit for his marketing campaign. Brilliant slogan, and images and footage of the man surrounded by his slogans connected to enthusiastic supporters certainly have an impact on viewers' votes and their susceptibility to be swayed in his favor.

I'm not a U.S. citizen and I can thus not vote nor am I affiliated with any of the candidates, and I'm a psychology major and former sales man. I find it disturbing that Obama, associated with that alleged change we can believe in, changes his own beliefs about a long-time friend who wed Obama to his wife and baptized his children. This change of Obama's mind was brought on because of popular opinion, and that's not a change you should believe in.

20 years of friendship to Reverend Wright equals a significant impact on Obama, his family, and their past experiences, and a sudden change of heart brought on by external opinions is not a change to believe in. Remember that next time you see the slogan, "A change to believe in", that the hardest change to make is one contradicting long-term experience, and keep Reverend Wright's face in mind when you think about that change and see those slogans.
there was a period of tranquility when the clintonistas thought that they could pull of an upset in NC.
[url=http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/05/black-voters-di.html]The Daily Dish | By Andrew Sullivan[/url]
Too bad for Hillary the whole nation has finally caught up. sweet sweet victory. Here's to better discussion around this place

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Old 05-07-2008, 05:15 PM
 
Location: Sugar Land, TX
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Here's what now seems obvious: African-American voters killed the Clinton candidacy.

See this, Mr. Limbaugh? THIS is what will cause riots in Denver, not your half-crocked Operation Chaos crap.
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Old 05-07-2008, 05:17 PM
 
Location: San Antonio North
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Here's what now seems obvious: African-American voters killed the Clinton candidacy.

See this, Mr. Limbaugh? THIS is what will cause riots in Denver, not your half-crocked Operation Chaos crap.
Race bater.

What is with you crying racism or implying someone else is.
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Old 05-07-2008, 06:54 PM
 
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I must give Obama credit for his marketing campaign. Brilliant slogan, and images and footage of the man surrounded by his slogans connected to enthusiastic supporters certainly have an impact on viewers' votes and their susceptibility to be swayed in his favor.

I'm not a U.S. citizen and I can thus not vote nor am I affiliated with any of the candidates, and I'm a psychology major and former sales man. I find it disturbing that Obama, associated with that alleged change we can believe in, changes his own beliefs about a long-time friend who wed Obama to his wife and baptized his children. This change of Obama's mind was brought on because of popular opinion, and that's not a change you should believe in.

20 years of friendship to Reverend Wright equals a significant impact on Obama, his family, and their past experiences, and a sudden change of heart brought on by external opinions is not a change to believe in. Remember that next time you see the slogan, "A change to believe in", that the hardest change to make is one contradicting long-term experience, and keep Reverend Wright's face in mind when you think about that change and see those slogans.
The chronology of the issue does not coincide with what you are claiming. Sen. Obama did not denounce his pastor until the Rev. went in front of the National Press Club and called him a phony. During the initial debate over Rev. Wright, Sen. Obama would not denounce him -- it cost Obama many votes. Sen. Obama's change of heart (and subsequent denouncement) reflects the fact that an opinion is able to change according to new information. It seems to me that Rev. Wright was the one who walked away from that relationship.
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Old 05-07-2008, 07:09 PM
 
Location: Charlotte
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His supporters do not care and can not see him for what he is a politician trying to get elected all the while saying he is a new kinda politician.
This is counter to the makeup of the demographic which forms the base of his support. Try again.
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Old 05-07-2008, 07:11 PM
 
Location: Sugar Land, TX
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Race bater.
As my mother used to say, "Don't say it if you can't spell it."
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Old 05-07-2008, 07:13 PM
 
Location: Rural Central Texas
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This is counter to the makeup of the demographic which forms the base of his support. Try again.
What demographic is it that is inherently blind to truth? I was not aware that there was any specific demographic with that defined trait. Please enlighten us as to whom you are referring.
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