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Old 10-14-2008, 07:50 AM
 
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. Notes are a good thing in court or debate no matter who you are.
Yes. I agree. so why are you arguing with me!
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Old 10-14-2008, 07:52 AM
 
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I agree with mackinac81. Wisdom and intelligence are more important than education.I know too many "educated" people who have absolutely no common sense, wisdom, and also lack greatly in intelligence. I'm voting too.
wisdom and intelligence are important and SO is an education. How successful you are in your education can be a REFLECTION of intelligence.
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Old 10-14-2008, 09:50 AM
 
Location: Home is where the heart is
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I would greatly prefer a man with both intellectual accomplishments and common sense. As Obama has both and McCain neither, I am voting for Obama.
My sentiments, exactly.

Well, almost exactly, I would have said "candidate" not "man." But I think that's what you meant.
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Old 10-14-2008, 03:23 PM
 
Location: Bradenton, Florida
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Some people dont want a President who is seen as an Intellectual? I wonder why? Why do people think they want someone that is just like them? Why not support for someone who may be smarter than themselves? My guess is fear. They fear being taken out of their comfort zone. At the same time, how many people shoot animals from helicopters?

Commentary: Will 'intellectual' label hurt Obama? - CNN.com
Americans despise intellectuals out of envy or fear. Take your pick. What kids got picked on in school? The dumb jocks, or the brainiacs?
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Old 10-17-2008, 03:22 PM
 
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In my opinion, intellectuals don't have the common sense that God gave a goose.
I can see your opinion holds great credence
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Old 10-17-2008, 03:27 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Lightbulb What's wrong with having a President who is highly educated?

Not a single thing. Just as long as he isn't uppity.
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Old 10-17-2008, 03:32 PM
 
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after 8 years of what we got
a little brain would be nice for a pleasant change
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Old 10-17-2008, 04:28 PM
 
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Woodrow Wilson facts:

The trustees promoted Professor Wilson to president of Princeton in 1902.

Wilson became the first lecturer of Constitutional Law at New York Law School where he taught with Charles Evans Hughes.

Wilson applied to the new Johns Hopkins University to study for a Ph.D. in history and political science, which he completed in 1886.

Wilson would later serve as president of the American Political Science Association in 1910, and remains the only U.S. president to have earned a doctoral degree, and the only political scientist to become president.

In 1914, Wilson declared the first national Mother's Day

The trustees rejected Wilson's plan for colleges in 1908, and then endorsed West's plans in 1909. The national press covered the confrontation as a battle of the elites (West) versus democracy (Wilson). During this time in his personal life, Wilson engaged in an extramarital affair with socialite Mary Peck.

The Federal Reserve Act is one of the more significant pieces of legislation in the history of the United States.[35] Wilson secured passage of the Federal Reserve system in late 1913

Wilson spent 1914 through the beginning of 1917 trying to keep America out of the war in Europe. He offered to be a mediator, but neither the AlliesCentral Powers took his requests seriously. Republicans, led by Theodore Roosevelt, strongly criticized Wilson’s refusal to build up the U.S. Army in anticipation of the threat of war. Wilson won the support of the U.S. peace element by arguing that an army buildup would provoke war. However for all his words, Wilson was anything but neutral. His pro-British views caused his Secretary of State William Jennings Bryan to resign in protest in 1915. nor the
While German submarines were sinking merchant ships, the U.S. and Wilson stayed neutral. Britain had declared a blockade of Germany, preventing neutral shipping carrying “contraband” goods to Germany. Wilson protested this violation of neutral rights by London, but his protests were mild, and the British knew America would not take action.

"An unprecedented number"[42]of African Americans had left the Republicans to cast their vote for the Democrat Wilson, encouraged by his promises of support for their issues. They were disappointed when early in his administration he allowed the introduction of segregation into several federal departments. The issue came up early in an April 1913 cabinetAlbert Burleson, his Postmaster General and a southern native, complained about working conditions at the Railway Mail Service. Offices and restrooms were segregated, sometimes by partitions erected between seating for white and African American employees.

To stop defeatism at home, Wilson pushed the Espionage Act of 1917 and the Sedition Act of 1918 through Congress to suppress anti-British, pro-German, or anti-war opinions. He welcomed socialists who supported the war, such as Walter Lippmann, but would not tolerate those who tried to impede the war or, worse, assassinate government officials, and pushed for deportation of foreign-born radicals.[47] Over 170,000 US citizens were arrested during this period, in some cases for things they said about the president in their own homes.[citation needed] Citing the Espionage Act, the U.S. Post Office refused to carry any written materials that could be deemed critical of the U. S. war effort. Some sixty newspapers were deprived of their second-class mailing rights.

The American Protective League was a quasi-private organization with 250,000 members in 600 cities was sanctioned by the Wilson administration. These men carried Government Issue badges and freely conducted warrantless searches and interrogations.[49] This organization was empowered by the U.S. Justice Department to spy on Americans for anti-government/anti war behavior. As national police, the APL checked up on people who failed to buy Liberty Bonds and spoke out against the government’s policies.

Treaty of Versailles

Wilson supported eugenics, and in 1907 he helped to make Indiana the first of more than thirty states to adopt legislation aimed at compulsory sterilization of certain individuals.[58] Although the law was overturned by the Indiana Supreme Court in 1921,[59] the Supreme Court of the United States upheld the constitutionality of a Virginia law allowing for the compulsory sterilization of patients of state mental institutions in 1927.[60]

While president of Princeton University, Wilson discouraged blacks from even applying for admission.[65] Princeton would not admit its first black student until the 1940s.

When a delegation of blacks protested the discriminatory actions, Wilson told them that "segregation is not a humiliation but a benefit, and ought to be so regarded by you gentlemen." In 1914, he told the
meeting, when New York Times, "If the colored people made a mistake in voting for me, they ought to correct it."

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Intelligence comes in many forms. From Hitler types to Eisenstein types. It's the personality and personal views that make the person and weigh in on the decision making process. Obviously you can see someone can be smart and do some of the dumbest things known to man.
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Old 10-17-2008, 04:36 PM
 
Location: Somewhere in Texas
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Then you don’t know a lot of educated people.
I can just imagine the kind of people you know.
Well, you're very wrong there. You can't possibly imagine the kind of people I know based on this forum, but I'll give you a little clue. I know of many "not so great" people and know many decent people; I think we all do. I choose to spend time with the latter.
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Old 10-17-2008, 04:36 PM
 
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What's wrong with having an Educated person?

Experience. That cinches a deal for me.
And I'll bet you think I'm speaking of Obama. Not.

I'm speaking of, nearly anyone.

I could mention some of his advisers or information he uses to form his ideas and plans. (and yeah I know about "Buffett", everyone does)
For example, economist, many are simply only book smart. Never owned or operated a business etc.
They write books, papers, studies, about stats, use spread sheets, etc to formulate opinions and such and give advise.

But...I'd venture to say Life/experience *with* an education, is best with about 50% Experience {experiencing}, your speciality.
Others would benefit from anyone whose got Both under his belt. In my humble opinion.

Such as the Doc whose done a few, over the Intern or Resident fresh from the books or viewing gallery, taking up that scalpel.

I prefer Not being a guinea pig pretty much in any aspect of life
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