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Old 11-05-2008, 07:07 PM
 
Location: Oakland, CA
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I think the Republican party will change because Americans are becoming more diverse, and they need to adapt to this. And if they stayed the same attracting only white folks (becoming a minority in the next 2 decades) and/or Bible thumpers (more people are non-religious in the future as well), then they are bound to doom.
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Old 11-05-2008, 07:08 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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The worst thing that could happen to this country is a one party rule forever.
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Old 11-05-2008, 07:12 PM
 
Location: CA (hell)
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How can they win anything when their constituents now compromise of Evangelicals and white southerners?

Hispanics, African Americans, and Youth will always give the Democrats an edge, especially since Hispanics are among the fastest growing group in the country and Republican registration is way down.

They will be finished unless they reject the crazy, bible-thumping Evangelicals who have ruined the party.
I think you are miss informed. It has nothing to do with us so called "Bible Thumping Evangelicals". Take a look at the map bud. Red wasn't confined to the south. It has to do with our ever more becoming LEFT as a party. Our party need to get back to the right. Not all Hispanics, African Americans, and youth are middle of the road. The land side was Electoral only. I'm not taking anything from Barrack Obama, but the popular vote was not a landslide by anymeans. The Republican Party will take this lose as a lesson and learn. We will return my friend.
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Old 11-05-2008, 07:15 PM
 
Location: CA (hell)
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Its the Lincoln party only in name these days.
True...Lincoln was on the right. We have shifted to the middle. Shame on us.
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Old 11-05-2008, 07:16 PM
 
Location: ***Spokane***
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How can they win anything when their constituents now compromise of Evangelicals and white southerners?

Hispanics, African Americans, and Youth will always give the Democrats an edge, especially since Hispanics are among the fastest growing group in the country and Republican registration is way down.

They will be finished unless they reject the crazy, bible-thumping Evangelicals who have ruined the party.
OMG, not all blacks are from Africa, so the term African Americans, is like stating European Americans, when whites are from Australia and even Africa.... and you state all black and hispantics vote the same, that's not all so true....no individualism in the races?
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Old 11-05-2008, 08:11 PM
 
Location: los angeles
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I think you are miss informed. It has nothing to do with us so called "Bible Thumping Evangelicals". Take a look at the map bud. Red wasn't confined to the south. It has to do with our ever more becoming LEFT as a party. Our party need to get back to the right. Not all Hispanics, African Americans, and youth are middle of the road. The land side was Electoral only. I'm not taking anything from Barrack Obama, but the popular vote was not a landslide by anymeans. The Republican Party will take this lose as a lesson and learn. We will return my friend.
Suggest you take a long look at the political map & this time open your eyes Red\Republican has lost a dozen states, some even in the South. The entire Northeast\Great Lakes\upper Midwest are now Democratic [that's where the large cities are]. The Southwest is now all Democratic from New Mexico\Colorado to Hawaii [only Arizona is still Republican but just barely.

If the GOP is a "Southern Party" than the only large population is in Texas [the rest are rural states with smaller populations than many large cities

You guys are the future of the GOP & still don't get it duh!
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Old 11-05-2008, 08:22 PM
 
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For two elections, the Dems couldn't pull a candidate out of their hat who could beat a very beatable guy--George W. Bush. Algore---? ok, they get a pass on that one because he was the incumbent VP and you sort of have to put that guy forward. But in 2004? With W. even more beatable than in 2000 and who do they come up with? Kerry! What a joke. For everyone who complains about 8 years of Bush--I think the Dems at least need to do some self-flagellation (sp?) because if they'd put up even a semblance of a qualified candidate, Bush would have carried on Daddy's legacy of being a one-term President.

The GOP committed the same grevious error this time around. Obama was beatable. Very beatable. But they didn't put the right guy on the ground to battle him.
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Old 11-05-2008, 08:33 PM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC (in my mind)
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I am a Newt Gingrich fan and would like to see the GOP go in that direction. We can't have a moderate like McCain, or somebody like Huckabee who only appeals to evangelicals. We need a GOP candidate who can unite the fiscal conservatives and the social conservatives behind one banner.

And as much as you people hate evangelicals - they aren't going anywhere.
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Old 11-05-2008, 08:38 PM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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How can they win anything when their constituents now compromise of Evangelicals and white southerners?

Hispanics, African Americans, and Youth will always give the Democrats an edge, especially since Hispanics are among the fastest growing group in the country and Republican registration is way down.

They will be finished unless they reject the crazy, bible-thumping Evangelicals who have ruined the party.


Nice hate speech!

Crazy? If you were a schizophrenic, you would both be hanging out with a creep right now. So what's your point?

Half of all Americans go to church on a regular basis. 43% claim to have had a born again experience. That's a lot more than those crazy southern whites that you speak of.

With the wind in his face, McCain attracted almost half the vote. Absolutely no reason he should have done except your candidate was flawed.

If Obama were white, he would have lost and everyone knows it.

Most Americans still identify themselves as conservative.

Obama and Pelosi are about to pull the bait and switch. Care to guess what will happen in two years?
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Old 11-05-2008, 08:45 PM
 
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Well the 'youth' will eventually grow up,many will get more conservative.After 1976 the republicans were declared finished by many,after 4 years of carter ,reagan was ushered in along with republican control of the senate.....People too quickly also forget that after the first two years of bill clintons 'democratic utopia' the republicans regained the senate and retook control of the house after being in the minority for decades and held it for the next 12 years.Things actually worked fairly well during the period when clinton was in the whitehouse and the republicans controlled the rest since both sides were constrained from 'doing much'.If govt cant do much it cant screw things up much either.....It also shouldnt be forgotten that not too many years ago it looked like the democrats were 'finished'.Politics have been cyclical since the founding of the country.....If people dont see a big change in the next two years which is to their liking dont be surprised to see the republicans regaining congress or the presidency in 4 years.Obama is inheiriting a huge mess and has promised the world,if he cant deliver he will be blamed ,regardless of whether it is his fault or not.On the other hand if he catches some 'luck' and things improve inspite of anything he does or doesnt do he will still get credit.Getting elected was the 'easy'part.
I agree with your cyclical point regarding party politics but offer this observation; rather than comparing the potential results of an Obama presidency to Carter I think a more apt comparison is to Reagan. Republican supporters (I am not speaking of you in particular) are caught up in this "he will be like Carter" spin and are missing a few salient points. The tenor of the country as Carter gave way to Reagan was one of a gas crisis, strained foreign relations (hostage crisis) and economic malaise. Sound familiar? Instead of presuming Obama will be like Carter because they share the same party I see more similarity as it pertains to the state of the country between Reagan and Obama. Obama is entering the Presidency at the opposite end of the typical "cycle". Republicans are normally voted in when the economy is tanking, because they were the party of fiscal conservation and looked after your money. Bush's administration has changed ALL of that. Reagan came in and gave the USA a patriotic hug at a time when american citizens needed a pep talk. Obama was elected on much of the same rhetoric. So although there are always typical cycles in politics between the two parties the game has changed as Democrats have been voted in during a time when typically the Republican ideals have always been better received...now the citizenry do not see them that way any more. So rather than waiting out the "cycle" to tilt back in their favor, they need to figure out an entirely new brand and a way to connect with an entire generation of voters that has dismissed their entire party. Everything has changed.
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