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Old 11-06-2008, 09:15 PM
 
Location: Fort Myers Fl
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LOL, the warmongering neocons are devastated they can't prolonged their unnecessary wars.

No more free handout war related jobs and welfare money for war profiteering companies.

Ah liberals, sometimes you just want to give them a great big hug.
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Old 11-06-2008, 09:16 PM
 
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Counting the value of lives lost as well as property damage and lost production of goods and services, losses already exceed $100 billion. Including the loss in stock market wealth -- the market's own estimate arising from expectations of lower corporate profits and higher discount rates for economic volatility -- the price tag approaches $2 trillion.

The Cost of September 11
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Old 11-06-2008, 09:18 PM
 
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The other 2 trillion dollar disaster.

Health Care - The Real Medicare Crisis Ahead (http://www.ncpa.org/prs/rel/2004/20040604bnr.htm - broken link)

The trustees found that our obligations to future retirees are unfunded by a staggering $62 trillion. Add that to an earlier estimate of unfunded liabilities for the Social Security pension system, and the figure rises to $72 trillion," Sen. Joe Lieberman, D-Conn., said in a recent Financial Times editorial. "It is hard for most people to grasp those astronomical figures," he wrote. "They far exceed the entire net worth of the United States. But, as a nation, we must urgently grasp them -- and act. Americans cannot afford to ignore this reality. Each year that we do nothing, this 'entitlement gap' will grow by $2 trillion."



Can we say another attack of the same caliber will sink us forever?
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Old 11-06-2008, 09:19 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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It's a made up word and a non-concept, notwithstanding you can find people who use it.

Japan from the early 1600s to the mid-1800s is a good example of a country that was actually in isolation. No American has ever advocated any such thing, nor has anyone campaigned on a platform of "isolationism".

John Quincy Adams was not an isolationist. There is no such creature.
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Old 11-06-2008, 09:24 PM
 
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It's a made up word and a non-concept, notwithstanding you can find people who use it.

Japan from the early 1600s to the mid-1800s is a good example of a country that was actually in isolation. No American has ever advocated any such thing, nor has anyone campaigned on a platform of "isolationism".

John Quincy Adams was not an isolationist. There is no such creature.

sandiego.edu/gen/WW2Timeline/07/isolationism.html

You should tell all those Phd's that write the history books for our school system.
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Old 11-06-2008, 11:52 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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sandiego.edu/gen/WW2Timeline/07/isolationism.html

You should tell all those Phd's that write the history books for our school system.
Did someone tell you that you need a Ph. D. to write a history book? Or that having a Ph. D. means you aren't writing with an agenda?

It was probably the same person who convinced you there is an actual doctrine out there called isolationism.
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Old 11-06-2008, 11:53 PM
 
Location: Imaginary Figment
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Hey Al-Queda!!!!!! Just 16 more months to wait! Get ready, stockpile your weapons and bombs As soon as the US leaves, you can take back over!
Kind of like Afghanistan now?
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Old 11-06-2008, 11:56 PM
 
Location: Imaginary Figment
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LOL, the warmongering neocons are devastated they can't prolonged their unnecessary wars.

No more free handout war related jobs and welfare money for war profiteering companies.
They want other people's children to die, and borrow money to finance it all.

In my opinion, if you want war, you pick up a gun and fight! You need money for it, pay more taxes! These chickenhawks don't want to do either, including those who post here.
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Old 11-06-2008, 11:57 PM
 
Location: Imaginary Figment
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STOP the presses, didnt the Democrats just spend the last couple of years claiming Al-Qaeda was not in Iraq?
It's pretty well known that they weren't there until we arrived. Something the National Intelligence Estimate concluded.
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Old 11-07-2008, 12:35 AM
 
Location: Kansas
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I'll tell you what I know first hand. I'm working on an airplane program for the Iraqi Air Force that's supposed to serve as a low-cost counter insurgency aircraft. The timeline is to deliver the first plane in a little over a year. We're setting them up to fight their own battles. Our program delivery dates line up well with the pentagon time table.
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