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Old 01-21-2009, 07:45 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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Seems our resident whiners just got another jug. They are fun but irrelevant.
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Old 01-21-2009, 07:51 AM
 
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this why i like this site
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Old 01-21-2009, 08:06 AM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Some constitutional lawyers are suggesting that Obama and Roberts have a private do-over. Apparently there is some precedent here, with Chester Arthur and Calvin Coolidge.

Experts say Obama should retake the oath
Uh, really? CNN kept saying that Obama became the pres. at noon whether he had taken the oath or not. Quit grasping at straws!
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Old 01-21-2009, 08:08 AM
 
Location: Idaho Falls
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You focus on something unimportant. It's just an official ceremony. Of course he's the president.
I was responding to the (at least) three people who denied that Fox News was saying that Obama might not have been officially sworn in because of the mistake.

People who mentioned Fox News's comments were called liars. So I posted the link.

I agree with you - it's just another silly thing for the exremist right-wingers to go bonkers over. And I think that's hilarious.
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Old 01-21-2009, 09:07 AM
 
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I was responding to the (at least) three people who denied that Fox News was saying that Obama might not have been officially sworn in because of the mistake.

People who mentioned Fox News's comments were called liars. So I posted the link.

I agree with you - it's just another silly thing for the exremist right-wingers to go bonkers over. And I think that's hilarious.
Hold the presses and review the following.
Experts say Obama should retake the oath
01-21) 04:00 PST Washington - -- Several constitutional lawyers said President Obama should, just to be safe, retake the oath of office that was flubbed by Chief Justice John Roberts.
The 35-word oath is explicitly prescribed in the Constitution, Article II, Section 1, which begins by saying the president "shall" take the oath "before he enter on the execution of his office."

The oath reads: "I do solemnly swear that I will faithfully execute the office of president of the United States and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."

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Old 01-21-2009, 10:18 AM
 
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I guess I don't guess this "oath is just a ceremony" thing.

When JFK was killed in '63, LBJ made certain that the oath take place, aboard Air Force One, no less. The photo snapped at that moment became one of the most important pictures of the 20th century. Certainly the circumstances were different, but it seemed pretty important then.
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Old 01-21-2009, 10:45 AM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Well, LBJ succeeded to the presidency. He was not elected.
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Old 01-21-2009, 10:50 AM
 
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I guess I don't guess this "oath is just a ceremony" thing.

When JFK was killed in '63, LBJ made certain that the oath take place, aboard Air Force One, no less. The photo snapped at that moment became one of the most important pictures of the 20th century. Certainly the circumstances were different, but it seemed pretty important then.
You don't think ceremony is important?

We mark transition after transition with ceremony. Graduations, weddings, funerals, we even have ceremonies for naming children. The inauguration took place, the trappings of the ceremony were observed. There was a little tongue-stumbling that took place, people were nervous, it was a stressful event. But the ceremony was concluded. If Obama wants to retake the oath, he's free to do so. But if he doesn't, it doesn't take away from the official inauguration. Power has been transferred. The transition has been completed.
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Old 01-21-2009, 10:50 AM
 
Location: Idaho Falls
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I guess I don't guess this "oath is just a ceremony" thing.

When JFK was killed in '63, LBJ made certain that the oath take place, aboard Air Force One, no less. The photo snapped at that moment became one of the most important pictures of the 20th century. Certainly the circumstances were different, but it seemed pretty important then.
You're right - we shouldn't downplay the Oath. It's in Article II, Section 1. But it's not like Obama entered the office without bothering. He took the Oath.

What's absolutely silly is suggesting that the Oath has to be perfectly administered to be valid.

I think the fine legal minds who are recommending a do-over are not so much thinking that Obama's Presidency is in doubt as trying to short-circuit any frivilous lawsuits that the wingnuts might come up with.
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Old 01-21-2009, 10:58 AM
 
Location: East Chicago, IN
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When noon hit yesterday, it was a done deal. The contract was binding, the statute of limitations was up as far as anyone wanting to stop him from getting sworn in. The only way to oust him now would be to impeach or kill him, and only the most idiotic would attempt those options.
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