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Well off topic a little now with other continents but I think there definitely is a Central Asia which includes some of the former Soviet republics like Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, etc and maybe Afghanistan which can also be in the Middle East. I've heard Pakistan described as South Asian and Middle Eastern. I know culturally and religiously both Afghanistan and Pakistan are Middle Eastern but geographically they are at the edge.
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Originally Posted by Davy-040
Next poll?
Are Poland, Czech Republic, Slovakia, Hungary and Slovenia in...
-Western Europe
-Central Europe
-Eastern Europe
I just don't like the word Central combined with a continent.
It's West/East or North/South for me!
Culturally, I'd say we're Western European, although more influenced by our eastern neighbours than for example, Germany. I suppose "Central Europe" would be the best description, but you don't like that term. Maybe the German term "Mitteleuropa"?
On the other hand, it's all in the eye of the beholder. I see you're Dutch, I've lived in the Netherlands for quite an extensive period of time, and my impression is that the most "correct" term used in the Dutch papers (and even in politics there) is "Eastern Block" when referring to these five countries...
By the way, I noticed that you more or less followed geographical lines when dividing the other continents up, if you would apply the same to Europe, taking the 25th parallel of longtitude, as well as the 53rd parallel of latitude, (extreme points of Europe are more or less 10W, 60E, 35N and 71N) one would see the following definition:
Eastern Europe: Finland, Baltics, Russia, Belarus, Ukraine, Caucasian states, Moldowa, Romania, Bulgaria, (Turkey, Cyprus - depending on whether one calls these two countries European or not)
I think that Hungary and Poland are firmly in Eastern Europe along with the Baltic states, especially since the Baltics were not only behind the Iron Curtain they are further east AND they were actually officially part of the Soviet Union. I think of Budapest and Warsaw as clearly Eastern European cities and group them with Moscow, Kiev, and Bucharest rather than with Paris, London, Rome of any Western city. I do consider Prague and Vienna to be central European cities if there is a Central Europe, if ONLY east and west then Prague would be east and Vienna would be west despite the geographical locations. A case can be made for Berlin as an Eastern European city, as well as other places in the former East Germany.
Well off topic a little now with other continents but I think there definitely is a Central Asia which includes some of the former Soviet republics like Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan,
What else would you call them if not "Central Asia?"))))
I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT HISTORICAL, CULTURAL OR ECONOMICAL CONCEPTS......
I AM TALKING ABOUT WHAT COMMON PEOPLE UNDERSTAND NOWDAYS ABOUT EASTERN EUROPE. I AM AWARE THAT MANY COUNTRIES DO NOT LIKE TO BE CALLED EASTERN EUROPE SINCE HISTORICALLY THEY WERE CENTRAL EUROPE, THE BALCANS OR BALTIC STATES.
YES, DDR WAS EASTERN EUROPE (AND MANY GERMAN STILL CONSIDER THE AREA AS EAST GERMANY). YES, PRAGUE AND VIENNA WERE SWAPPED.
BUT EASTERN EUROPE IS STILL USED TO DESIGNATE THE AREA BY MOST PEOPLE.
I HAVE SEEN THAT MANY GUIDES AND PROGRAMS ARE USING "CENTRAL EUROPE" BECAUSE MANY WANT TO GET RID OF THE TAG PROVOKED BY RUSSIAN OCCUPATION AND COLD WAR.
CAPS ARE REALLY PERSUASIVE. THEY PERSUADE ME TO IGNORE POSTS USUALLY.
However, I won't.
Eastern Europe is still in use in a large part of the world to describe places that were formerly considered Central Europe up until the Cold War. However, the concept never completely died out in the meantime including among actual people living in those regions. It is not just a "marketing" tactic though that comes in play, too. Regardless, I don't see where you're getting your 90% or 99% statistic from. There are also plenty of people who switch between the terms depending on the conversation.
There's also the possibility that you're just a bit old-fashioned, but not old-fashioned enough. Central Europe was the preferred term for a very long time and not so long ago (there are still people alive from before the end of World War II and the redrawing of Europe's boundaries). It certainly lost a lot of clout during the Cold War, but there is now substantial evidence that the concept of Central Europe is becoming fairly popular again--some people have actually posted links to that while your 90%/99% seems to come out of nowhere.
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I wasn't even talking about it.
