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Old 10-18-2012, 11:36 AM
 
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Owenc, you are in Grammar school?
OK, then you are the person to ask; what Grammar school is all about?
How is it different from..er.. *other* school?
erasure, I'm sure Owen will clarify, but I think the term 'grammar school' in the UK isn't the same as in the US. I think it's a different type of what Americans would call "high school", not younger students as grammar school is in the USA.
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Old 10-18-2012, 12:02 PM
 
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erasure, I'm sure Owen will clarify, but I think the term 'grammar school' in the UK isn't the same as in the US. I think it's a different type of what Americans would call "high school", not younger students as grammar school is in the USA.
Jeff, as they say "I only look stupid"))))
Of course I understand it, but this is where I'd like to learn more details;


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"We have High schools and Grammar schools.
I goto a Grammar school, you have to meet certain grade requirements to get in. In a high school they have all academic levels, so they do streaming. "
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Old 10-18-2012, 12:03 PM
 
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Jeff, as they say "I only look stupid"))))
Of course I understand it, but this is where I'd like to learn more details;
Well then, Owen will need to clarify.
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Old 10-18-2012, 12:29 PM
 
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Wanna say that Russian government consists of 13 people?

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What "kinds of scum" exactly?
Like criminals and traitors, according to Putin.

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What "numbers"?
The number of people who PASS western criteria for immigration?
Oh, so uneducated people from 3rd world countries pass the criteria better?

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Even if you look at the fact that 60% of Russian immigration goes to Germany
But that's German-Russians, including WW2 Wehrmacht vets, whom Germany began paying vet pensions.

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it should tell you that European countries are not rubber-made, and they can absorb only so much of immigration
Yeah, they can't pay all Russians $2000 welfare and $5000+ salaries - which is how neoliberal "the grass is greener" propaganda portrays the West.

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it shouldn't be attributed to "great Putin's economic policies"
No need to tell me that.

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Don't be an idiot.
I'm not.

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Old 10-18-2012, 12:34 PM
 
Location: North West Northern Ireland.
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Owenc, you are in Grammar school?
OK, then you are the person to ask; what Grammar school is all about?
How is it different from..er.. *other* school?
There is a higher standard of education and we generally get higher grades. It is a bit like the English private schools. Children are richer here and much more well mannered.

Rules are strict, for example, you can not die your hair here, you cannot have your tie longer than five stripes, you must not wear nail varnish, boys must not have their hair below the collar of the shirt.

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Old 10-18-2012, 12:44 PM
 
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There is a higher standard of education and we generally get higher grades. It is a bit like the English private schools. Children are richer here and much more well mannered.

Rules are strict, for example, you can not die your hair here, you cannot have your tie longer than five stripes, you must not wear nail varnish, boys must not have their hair below the collar of the shirt.

Etc.
How interesting.
Since the academics are of a higher standard, how are students chosen for these schools?
Are these schools free (part of the greater public education system)?

I knew a guy who went to someplace called Enfield Grammar School (he used to tell us about it), but he was neither smart nor well-mannered
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Old 10-18-2012, 12:54 PM
 
Location: North West Northern Ireland.
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No, the Schools are free. In my time we had this thing called an 11+ and that determined whether or not you got in. I think you had to get a B to get in.

But now, we have a different system, each school does a test. If you get a high grade in that you get into the school.
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Old 10-18-2012, 01:13 PM
 
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No, the Schools are free. In my time we had this thing called an 11+ and that determined whether or not you got in. I think you had to get a B to get in.

But now, we have a different system, each school does a test. If you get a high grade in that you get into the school.
I imagine the competition is fierce for entry into those schools?
Do you know if there are some students who don't get into the Grammar Schools even if they get high marks/good scores? I mean, is space limited?
Are there special tutors to help students do well in the test you're referring to?
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Old 10-18-2012, 01:35 PM
 
Location: North West Northern Ireland.
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I imagine the competition is fierce for entry into those schools?
Do you know if there are some students who don't get into the Grammar Schools even if they get high marks/good scores? I mean, is space limited?
Are there special tutors to help students do well in the test you're referring to?
Well, its not as High as you'd think.
There are students who don't get in, but they will usually just move to another grammar school in another town instead. Space is limited.

Yes, well most people don't get tutored a few do.
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Old 10-18-2012, 02:44 PM
 
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Well, its not as High as you'd think.
There are students who don't get in, but they will usually just move to another grammar school in another town instead. Space is limited.

Yes, well most people don't get tutored a few do.
I guess the closest public option the US has to these Grammar Schools are what we call Charter Schools. In most places the competition to get in is fierce. In fact, it got so fierce that many of the schools have started using a lottery program (public lottery, with numbers and everything).

The US also has "magnet" schools, which specialize in certain subjects. I don't know how competitive they are for entry, but I know some people who went to them and they said they were excellent.
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