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Originally Posted by Avondrood
Congratulations, dumbest post of the year . Soccer is loved by all types of people here in Europe, lower class, middle class, upper class. Even in my little team, there's a lawyer playing next to a construction worker, a civil engineer next to a cop, a banker next to a factory worker etc etc.
To answer the OP, racism is still there, a lot more in Eastern Europe than in Western Europe. Western Europe has tons of black and brown people now, lots of them also rooting for a local team. Even our "white trash" here is getting used to seeing people of different color. I attend soccer games a lot and racism has seriously declined here as compared to not even fifteen years ago. Is it still there? Of course, it'll probably always be there, as there will always be racists around.
And as Anondragon said, there's plenty of racism in Africa, Asia, etc as well.
Soccer brings people together, but it's sad that a few hooligans ruin it by this behaviour. If you think Europe is bad go to Latin America. People get killed over it there.
People get killed regularly on the streets of Glasgow, Moscow, Istanbul, Krakow, Belgrade just because they support the "wrong team" look it up. Cracovia v Wisla Krakow is CRAZY, not as well-known but an intensely crazy rivalry. Jason Campbell was jailed for life for slashing the throat of a Celtic fan. 2 Leeds fans were murdered in Istanbul due to being English football fans.
Wisla Krakow football hooligans attaks leaders hooligans Cracovia with knives (pretty violent so don't watch if squeamish)
It also does happen in France and Spain. I'm not sure if I'd call it racism in some cases. If their team is losing, people tend to blurt out all kinds of insults. Anything that can be used as an insult will be used, I suppose.
I'm not talking about hooligans, though.. That's a different story.
Because soccer appeals to the lower rungs of European society quite a bit. Poor and working class Europeans tend to hold racist views much more often than educated, middle class types. England is actually more racist than most people believe it is. England is not the place that you see in Downton Abbey or Pride and Prejudice.
nonesense , soccer has a huge following across all sections of society and racism in english football is in the happenyplace compared to the likes of eastern europe , its just the issue gets a lot more press and political mention in the uk
I am just telling you that myself my 'black, girlfriend and 'black' children have NOT suffered any racism when we have been to Stamford bridge, make of that what you will. Of course there are some racist people in the UK but anybody found guilty of racism at Premier league football stadiums is banned for life, perhaps if UEFA took the same stance you wouldn't still have the problem in southern or eastern Europe now.
What do you solved with that?
Are you yoing to find social expressions and outburts?
Idiotic
OK thanks Avondrood (still dont understand his post though! lol)
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