Is Turkey more European than Georgia? (features, pros, girls, Europeans)

[Gasinez]

Neither country is European as both these countries have absolutely different culture and mentality

[Giannis]

Originally Posted by Gasinez

Neither country is European as both these countries have absolutely different culture and mentality

For turkey it's true, i see it as not more European than Lebanon or even Iraq are European

[Ruth4Truth]

Originally Posted by Tall Traveler

I worked in Azerbaijan and visited Georgia and Turkey and I would say Georgia is more European than Turkey....Georgia seemed like a weird mix of Russian and Greek. I think the fact that Georgia is culturally Christian and Turkey is culturally Muslim is the biggest reason Georgia is more European than Turkey and the people of Georgia want to be thought of as European.

I agree with this. And Georgia "invented" wine-making several thousand years ago, which became popular in Europe later on. Just saying. Although there may be enclaves in Turkey that have a higher percentage of Indo-European people and I-E traditional culture.

Originally Posted by Tall Traveler

I worked in Azerbaijan and visited Georgia and Turkey and I would say Georgia is more European than Turkey....Georgia seemed like a weird mix of Russian and Greek. I think the fact that Georgia is culturally Christian and Turkey is culturally Muslim is the biggest reason Georgia is more European than Turkey and the people of Georgia want to be thought of as European.

I also like Azerbaijan better than Turkey.

The writing of Georgia actually looks extremely Arabic: საქართველოს წერა განსაკუთრებით არაბულად გამოიყურება Absolutely every letter, another behind the scenes occurrence. Same exact translation: Sakartvelos Ts’era Gansak’utrebit Arabulad Gamoiq’ureba.
دون أي تغييرات في شكل الكتابة.

Ironic Turkish is just Latinized. Avoiding resemblance there:
Yazma formunda herhangi bir değişiklik olmadan.
Without any changes in writing form.

Well, deep down Georgia is Middle Eastern a tiny bit further out than European. Or 50/50. Language writing, energy, music, the ladies. Atmosphere. Azerbaijan, Turkey next door. Persian Gulf tourists. Some various buildings. The nightlife smoke lounges from the nargile.

Cyprus, Israel, Georgia, Armenia are in that bubble, even if they aren't Muslim. Tons of Christians in Lebanon, and Kazakhstan. At least one third of everyone approximately.

There are no signs of Greek culture. Very subtle with Russian only in some corners of Tbilisi.

Is Azerbaijan, Georgia, Turkey on even ground to you?

Originally Posted by overdrive1979

According to the English level in both countries, it seems that Georgian people is more prone to learn English as a foreign language than Turkish people, therefore it makes Georgia somewhat more european by all accounts.

Too much English when I went there in Tbilisi in 2018. Wow! I didn't want them to know. Rather have seen them just zone out in friendly confusion. Batumi isn't in that boat. The first night, nobody could speak in my native language, and that is very fun to experience.

I bet in 2005, way less. The case in a lot of foreign republics. And computer machine Google translator probably isn't even around yet.

[Tall Traveler]

Originally Posted by

The writing of Georgia actually looks extremely Arabic: საქართველოს წერა განსაკუთრებით არაბულად გამოიყურება Absolutely every letter, another behind the scenes occurrence. Same exact translation: Sakartvelos Ts’era Gansak’utrebit Arabulad Gamoiq’ureba.
دون أي تغييرات في شكل الكتابة.

Ironic Turkish is just Latinized. Avoiding resemblance there:
Yazma formunda herhangi bir değişiklik olmadan.
Without any changes in writing form.

Well, deep down Georgia is Middle Eastern a tiny bit further out than European. Or 50/50. Language writing, energy, music, the ladies. Atmosphere. Azerbaijan, Turkey next door. Persian Gulf tourists. Some various buildings. The nightlife smoke lounges from the nargile.

Cyprus, Israel, Georgia, Armenia are in that bubble, even if they aren't Muslim. Tons of Christians in Lebanon, and Kazakhstan. At least one third of everyone approximately.

There are no signs of Greek culture. Very subtle with Russian only in some corners of Tbilisi.

Is Azerbaijan, Georgia, Turkey on even ground to you?

My ranking is:
1. Georgia
2. Azerbaijan
3. Turkey

Georgia I could live in voluntarily. THe other 2 only for work, which I have done. I should note that the people of Azerbaijan are extremely pleasant to deal with.

[Anhityk]

And what if we added Armenia and Azerbaidjan here. I wonder what is more European - Georgia, Armenia, Azerbaidjan? Or Turkey?

[Sofi32]

Originally Posted by Iber-Colchis

Give reasons and arguments why Turkey is considered or should be considered to be more European than Georgia.

Public view poll included.

Georgia is more European, only the western part of Turkey and Istanbul is somehow European.

[Nautical Features]

Originally Posted by Gasinez

Neither country is European as both these countries have absolutely different culture and mentality

So do the Scottish Highlands and Crete, but both are still European. That's the problem with people trying to delineate what is and isn't European on this site - the definition of 'Europe' is simply too vague and fluid. It's the most diverse continent per square km on earth, so most places in Europe have different cultures and mentalities.

Turkey has many of the hallmarks of a European state, is much more technologically advanced than Georgia, is further on the road to EU membership, and it's Mediterranean coast is practically indistinguishable from the Greek islands in terms of culture and history. To some people that makes it European, but to others it simply will never be Europe because it is not Christian (a point I disagree with). Georgia to some will always be European because it was one of the earliest adopters of Christianity and retains close ties to other Orthodox countries, and because the feel of the place is far more 'European' than the eastern regions of Turkey it borders. It might come across as something like a cross between Greece and Russia (on account of its Orthodox culture, its cuisine and its climate, combined with its history as part of the Russian Empire then the USSR) - does that make it less European than other peripheral European regions? Both Greece and Russia are European nations after all.

[Nautical Features]

Originally Posted by Tall Traveler

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My ranking is:
1. Georgia
2. Azerbaijan
3. Turkey

Georgia I could live in voluntarily. THe other 2 only for work, which I have done. I should note that the people of Azerbaijan are extremely pleasant to deal with.

There's merit to this list. I was very pleasantly surprised when I visited Baku in that regard. I think that its history of oil drilling has made it a very rich (and thus international) city, but also that the industry opened up Azerbaijan to the rest of Europe long before their neighbours were afforded any serious attention. By being one of the major industrial centres of the Russian Empire and one of its richest cities, it was 'Europeanised' a lot faster. There's also the strange feeling that Azerbaijan is more secular than most of Turkey despite being to its far east - no doubt a legacy of Soviet state atheism. That being said, Baku is Baku, and the rest of Azerbaijan is a little bit different.