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Of course people left them either for Russia or other Eastern parts of Ukraine.
And when it comes to the Western parts of Ukraine - why don't you show Ivano-Frankovsk for example, that is hardest hit by the coronavirus by now, ( because of that "EU association" and people traveling back and forth.)
People are dying in droves there now, with the shortage of oxygen and hospital beds.
And of course even that great Indian vaccine is not going to be delivered in Ukraine - that's what it sounds like, since the Indians are in need of it themselves, with the spiking cases in their own country.
It's either that, or they felt offended by the criticism of the Ukrainians.
Two of Ukrainian military died of it shortly after being vaccinated with it by the way.
Makeevka and Alchevsk never saw any fighting at all actually. Goes to show the breadth of your knowledge of Ukraine ends at Russian anti Ukrainian fantasyland.
I knew that the virus situation in Ukraine would be used by Russians to show more negativity. Ukraine doesn't hide their virus news and the media is allowed to show reality in their country unlike the great brothers to the north who make sure their people died and suffered in silence. Unfortunately all 3 countries will suffer mostly the same because nobody can make most of them vaccinate and Russian disinformation (calling the Astra Zeneca the "Indian" vaccine) runs rampant about it in all 3 countries too. It's not going to happen no matter how many doses of any vaxx are available. My understanding is that Western Ukrainians are even more superstitious and afraid of vaccines than their eastern brethren.
I would like to see western Ukraine and places like I-F sometime but if I make it back over there this year its goin to be in familiar places. If you draw a box from Kyiv to Kharkov to Zaporozhye to Odessa, that's real Ukraine to me.
Makeevka and Alchevsk never saw any fighting at all actually. Goes to show the breadth of your knowledge of Ukraine ends at Russian anti Ukrainian fantasyland.
I knew that the virus situation in Ukraine would be used by Russians to show more negativity. Ukraine doesn't hide their virus news and the media is allowed to show reality in their country unlike the great brothers to the north who make sure their people died and suffered in silence. Unfortunately all 3 countries will suffer mostly the same because nobody can make most of them vaccinate and Russian disinformation (calling the Astra Zeneca the "Indian" vaccine) runs rampant about it in all 3 countries too. It's not going to happen no matter how many doses of any vaxx are available. My understanding is that Western Ukrainians are even more superstitious and afraid of vaccines than their eastern brethren.
I would like to see western Ukraine and places like I-F sometime but if I make it back over there this year its goin to be in familiar places. If you draw a box from Kyiv to Kharkov to Zaporozhye to Odessa, that's real Ukraine to me.
Do you understand that Ukrs are bombing all these suburban areas of Donetsk ( that Makeevka is,) the civilian targets ( in the first video - that was a day care center and other houses,) and they kill people too; plenty of victims.
Alchevsk was friendly fire from Russian forces coming to fight off the encirclement of Donetsk and they attacked their own militia there after a false report. No surprise they are blaming Ukraine for the collateral damage they caused. No fighting reached Alchevsk.
I got Yanekiive and Makiivka mixed up. It happens. Its all the same crumbling soviet cities to me.
Both cities saw some damage in the course a few days 7 years ago as the Russian army pushed through. To call them "war zones" now is very far fetched.
No don't bother to click on silly links. It doesn't follow your narrative of how Ukraine should be going by now. Well, except the part controlled by your heros, they seem to be doing the job of destroying their corner of Ukraine.
It doesn't matter what DKM says, the reality of the situation is that most Ukrainians are not thriving, they are surviving and just barely in a lot of cases. Perhaps things are better these years after the conflict but what information can you trust? You would need to go and see for yourself. In my limited time in Ukraine no one is going to tell me that life has ever been easy there, the poverty was conspicuous.
In all fairness the governments of Ukraine, going back to the 1990s has not been good. It's not just the current regime that is the problem. Ukrainian people need a purge, on a grand scale.
I never said it was thriving. I'm saying its not worse than it was before. Outside of the Donbas that is... To portray it as some great standard of living ruined by the events of 2014 is pretty out of date thinking (it was true for the following 2 or 3 years). It is still a very poor place with a lot of corrupt people hanging on, but on average its not worse. For some people yes it is worse of course (I know some personally). You can say that about anywhere.
That said, right NOW its worse but that's because of the pandemic. It won't be like this forever though. Seems like most people I know in Russia and Ukraine have already gotten covid. (and sadly nobody from either country I know wants the vaccine). I really hope they are all going to be okay.
Alchevsk was friendly fire from Russian forces coming to fight off the encirclement of Donetsk and they attacked their own militia there after a false report. No surprise they are blaming Ukraine for the collateral damage they caused. No fighting reached Alchevsk.
I got Yanekiive and Makiivka mixed up. It happens. Its all the same crumbling soviet cities to me.
Both cities saw some damage in the course a few days 7 years ago as the Russian army pushed through. To call them "war zones" now is very far fetched.
No don't bother to click on silly links. It doesn't follow your narrative of how Ukraine should be going by now. Well, except the part controlled by your heros, they seem to be doing the job of destroying their corner of Ukraine.
Yes, we are already listening for six years how LDNR are "attacked by their own militia." ( And "Russian army.")
What else is new?
And DKM, you again did not see about the external debt, which this year you need to pay 15,000,000,000 dollars (fifteen billion dollars) of which 25% (twenty-five percent) is servicing, interest on the loan. How will Ukraine pay for this and is it going to?
Ukraine's debt - mostly incurred during the Yanukovich regime for "cheap gas" - will be rolled over this year just like in every year past, same as nearly every country does. And you are getting it wrong, as nearly 10 billion of their debt service this year is internal, less than 7 is external. The rolled over debts will be at much lower interest rates (thanks to the IMF), so the service expenditure will go down, not up. I tire of correcting all of the Russian misinformation on here, but good try anyway.
They were shut down during the days of the glorious Yanukovich administration apparently due to lack of "cheap gas". Either someone found cheap gas finally or they really need a lot more cement in Ukraine.
They were shut down during the days of the glorious Yanukovich administration apparently due to lack of "cheap gas". Either someone found cheap gas finally or they really need a lot more cement in Ukraine.
That's the weirdest cement plant I have ever seen. No lime silos, no gravel or other media silos. What are the big pipes for? Isn't the tower on the left attached to a conveyor belt? For coal? Why the big smokestacks? I've seen cement plants but never one like that. I could be wrong though, cement plants are not my field of expertise.
If the Ukrainians need cement then i hope it's not for a US taxpayer funded Maginot Line.
That's the weirdest cement plant I have ever seen. No lime silos, no gravel or other media silos. What are the big pipes for? Isn't the tower on the left attached to a conveyor belt? For coal? Why the big smokestacks? I've seen cement plants but never one like that. I could be wrong though, cement plants are not my field of expertise.
If the Ukrainians need cement then i hope it's not for a US taxpayer funded Maginot Line.
Wikipedia is telling me that it's the cement factory all right, but it was never closed to begin with...
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