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Old 10-06-2017, 08:04 PM
 
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And Putin follows Russia's constitution? Article 31?

Yanukovych was overthrown partly because he violated similar clause of Ukraine's constitution with the so called anti protest laws. Couldn't copy Putin fast enough...
And Yanukovich issued "anti-protest laws," because he KNEW that Western part of Ukraine will never settle down with the fact that it lost the democratic elections. And he knew that Americans were brewing a trouble there.

Never forget THIS;



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9hOl8TuBUM
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Old 10-06-2017, 08:13 PM
 
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I have to say Erasure knows more than me and I have learned much from her. Her knowledge base is much deeper than mine. I was privileged to see Russia in a time lapse from 1994 to 2008. I saw them struggle up from their knees and make something of themselves in some of the most challenging conditions you can imagine. Russians are a tough breed and admirable as a people.

Another tune from Vera B.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGKp2YfpySU

Scrat, of course my last days in the S.U. give me a good understanding, a solid understanding of "pre-history" of what followed next ( it's sort of like the "Old testment" before the "New" one))) )
But truth to be told, it were couple of Anglo-speaking guys who alerted/explained to me the rest - what exaclty came after and why. They kinda trusted my judgement and I took it from there, did more digging (because I had the gaps in full story here in there,) so by now I have a pretty complete picture I think...

P.S. I like Vera B. ( Do you know that she took her stage name after Leonid Brezhnev, the late Soviet leader, for real? )

I like (older) VIAGRA too. I posted a lot of their songs here earlier.
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Old 10-06-2017, 09:46 PM
 
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China has its own ambitions, so it's not about "friendship." It's about partnering with someone, who is useful to fulfill your ambitions.
Countries don’t have friends the same way people do, it’s all about business.

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Why should I trust you? It's absolutely not the case, because Iran has got its Islamic revolution at the first place, because of American manipulations with previous Iranian government)))
The Shah was overthrown because there were a lot of problems with the economy and was replaced by something far worse under the pretext that free elections would come. Many Iranians were duped by Khomeni into thinking fair elections eould follow the revolution. Little did they know that the Ayatollah wanted to establish an Islamic state.
The Shah first came into power in 1941 when the British and Soviets overthrew his father during the war because he supported Germany. The Pahlavi dynasty came to power in 1925 when Reza Shah overthrew the Qajar dynasty, so in essence what you have is a never ending cycle. It’s silly to just take a random date and pretend that history started there.

At the end of the day, modern Iran is essentially Saudi Arabia’s doppelgänger. Both countries promote extremism, so supporting either one is not a good idea, and yes I believe that Iran is just as extreme as SA nowadays.


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It's not about "control," it's about "teaming up" and skillful manipulation of politics/economy.
They can team up, but there is a lot of mistrust between the nations. Indians don’t get along well the Chinese despite it being their largest trading partner, thanks to political disputes along their border region.




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Well what can I say - I live in awfully non serious country, that writes "in god we trust" on its money and recite the pledge of allegiance as in "one nation under God."
So why should I argue)))
That’s a relic from the past that has made it into the 21st century. It’s dumb and should be removed. By extension, using religion as a tool to promote viewpoints does not belong here. Everyone loves to talk about how god is on their side and how they are doing his/her bidding. God doesn’t care about such trivialities as it’s existence cannot even be proven at this point.
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Old 10-07-2017, 02:52 AM
 
Location: Russia
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Just recently, erasure posted a comment about everything falling under biblical prophecy. As an educated person, do you really believe that karma and religion belong in this conversation?
I'm not a religious person, but I'm calm about religion. Sometimes it works and can help. As Letov sang "Не бывает атеистов в окопах под огнем" ("There are no atheists in foxholes"). Biblical prophecies contain patterns of human behavior. I do not think that these patterns could have changed a lot in a couple of thousand years. If a facts confirm some theory, then why not? But I am far from the Bible and I am not ready to participate in this discussion.

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Old 10-07-2017, 03:12 AM
 
Location: Russia
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...and most likely oil.
Russian missiles in Syria will destroy any oil agreements. Russia and Saudis support the opposite groups. It seems that Saudi Arabia also joins the peace talks.
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Old 10-07-2017, 08:49 AM
 
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And you're telling other people they look silly?

Here are some facts: 11,000 American babies are born every day. The average family income in the United States is nearly $60,000 a year. Not to get racial here but for white families its nearly $80k. It is not hard at all to find a Russian lady willing to consider living here but I bet you'd never find an American woman willing to live in Russia.

Sorry if your life isn't turning out the way you want, perhaps there is an apartment in Pskov waiting for you.
You know what it costs to raise kids in America? Look it up. As for Russian women coming here I know some who have and I know some who scoff at the idea. I know some who went back and I know Russians families who went back. I also know Americans who live there and would have it no other way.

I myself entertain fantasies of a condo in Smolensk which I could afford to pay cash for at this moment. Never been to Pskov.
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Old 10-07-2017, 09:49 AM
 
Location: france
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You know what it costs to raise kids in America? Look it up. As for Russian women coming here I know some who have and I know some who scoff at the idea. I know some who went back and I know Russians families who went back. I also know Americans who live there and would have it no other way.

I myself entertain fantasies of a condo in Smolensk which I could afford to pay cash for at this moment. Never been to Pskov.

Are you realling saying that average russian has a more easy life than average american?
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Old 10-07-2017, 12:07 PM
 
Location: Seattle WA, USA
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Why is Russia's homicide rate so high? especially when compared to other post soviet states.

UNODC murder rates (per 100,000 inhabitants)

Russia: 11.3
Lithuania: 5.98
Kyrgyzstan: 5.12
Kazakhstan: 4.84
Ukraine: 4.36
Turkmenistan: 4.20
Latvia: 4.11
Belarus: 3.58
Estonia: 3.20
Moldova: 3.19
Uzbekistan: 2.99
Georgia: 2.68
Armenia: 2.45
Azerbaijan: 2.45
Tajikistan: 1.44

However I've seen other sources say it's 8.19 in Russia, but that still is significantly higher than the rest.

And when looking at the national level why is the far east so high and the Caucuses so low, relatively speaking?

Far Eastern Federal District: 16.07
Siberian Federal District: 14.11
Urals Federal District: 10.85
Russia: 8.19
Volga Federal District: 7.96
Northwestern Federal District: 7.32
Central Federal District: 5.98
Southern Federal District: 4.94
North Caucasian Federal District: 3.64
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Old 10-07-2017, 02:45 PM
 
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Are you realling saying that average russian has a more easy life than average american?
Good question. The only reason I don't own that condo in Smolensk is because my family is here. I need to be here because of them. If my daughters husband were to be injured at work who would step in? They could lose everything. My other daughter is a single mom. Were it not for me and her mom riding herd on her son she would be destitute. Life here in America is no dream. People struggle.
I think its the same in Russia. One difference I have seen though is Russians have more freedom. I've watched America change in the last 20 years. We in America are simply indentured servants. Its getting worse.
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Old 10-07-2017, 02:52 PM
 
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Why is Russia's homicide rate so high? especially when compared to other post soviet states.

UNODC murder rates (per 100,000 inhabitants)
Russia: 11.3
Lithuania: 5.98
Kyrgyzstan: 5.12
Kazakhstan: 4.84
Ukraine: 4.36
Turkmenistan: 4.20
Latvia: 4.11
Belarus: 3.58
Estonia: 3.20
Moldova: 3.19
Uzbekistan: 2.99
Georgia: 2.68
Armenia: 2.45
Azerbaijan: 2.45
Tajikistan: 1.44

However I've seen other sources say it's 8.19 in Russia, but that still is significantly higher than the rest.

And when looking at the national level why is the far east so high and the Caucuses so low, relatively speaking?
Far Eastern Federal District: 16.07
Siberian Federal District: 14.11
Urals Federal District: 10.85
Russia: 8.19
Volga Federal District: 7.96
Northwestern Federal District: 7.32
Central Federal District: 5.98
Southern Federal District: 4.94
North Caucasian Federal District: 3.64
"16.07" Are there any natives (aboriginals) in those districts?

ok my knowledge of Russia (including USSR) is quite limited. Anne Wiazemsky just passed away, and her father was of the Rurik family. When I searched the Ruriks, they were not real Russians but descendants of the Lithuanians/Swedes/Slavs.
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