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Old 01-07-2020, 11:31 PM
 
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I think that an exact data will not be soon, an investigation is required. The jet burns during the fall (if the video is not fake). Given the neural tension experienced by Iranian air defense operators that night, I would not rule out a version of an accidental shot down.

Oh boy...
What the heck Ukrainians were doing there at the first place?
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Old 01-07-2020, 11:35 PM
 
Location: Russia
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Today he is already in Turkey.

Iran inflicted missile attacks on US bases. Iranian television reported 80 killed soldiers. I hope this is a lie and no one was hurt. Trump started another war in the Middle East.
This was to be expected. I assumed something like this, Iran simply had no choice. If he didn't respond, he would lose face, and most importantly, he would lose influence in the middle East. I hope that everything will be limited to these strikes, and I would not be surprised if it was by agreement with Trump. Something like, " here's a couple of bases for you guys, we're going to get someone out of there, and you're going to do a good job.". I think Trump is also not eager to get involved in a nuclear war.
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Old 01-07-2020, 11:38 PM
 
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Oh boy...
What the heck Ukrainians were doing there at the first place?

This is a regular flight. It seems like a sad Ukrainian tradition to fly during hostilities. There are a lot of questions to Iran, but maybe we will never get answers from there. Although, maybe this is a simple surprising coincidence and there really was some kind of malfunction that the jet caught fire in the air.
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Old 01-07-2020, 11:40 PM
 
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This is a regular flight. It seems like a sad Ukrainian tradition to fly during hostilities. There are a lot of questions to Iran, but maybe we will never get answers from there. Although, maybe this is a simple surprising coincidence and there really was some kind of malfunction that the jet caught fire in the air.

To/from WHERE exactly?
Or do you know?
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Old 01-07-2020, 11:44 PM
 
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To/from WHERE exactly?
Or do you know?

I did not understand the question. Flight "PS 752". Tehran-Kiev. Regular passenger flight.
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Old 01-07-2020, 11:55 PM
 
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I did not understand the question. Flight "PS 752". Tehran-Kiev. Regular passenger flight.

I thought they were may be flying VIA Tehran somewhere else, but from what you are saying it was a regular flight from Tehran?
For whatever reason it never crossed my mind that Ukrainians are flying to Iran ( out of all places.)
And the flight had a lot of people on board too it seems...
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Old 01-07-2020, 11:55 PM
 
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This was to be expected. I assumed something like this, Iran simply had no choice. If he didn't respond, he would lose face, and most importantly, he would lose influence in the middle East. I hope that everything will be limited to these strikes, and I would not be surprised if it was by agreement with Trump. Something like, " here's a couple of bases for you guys, we're going to get someone out of there, and you're going to do a good job.". I think Trump is also not eager to get involved in a nuclear war.

Now it all depends on Trump's reaction. If retaliatory strikes against pro-Iranian forces in Iraq and Syria, the conflict will be settled. If attack will on Iran, then this will a war, where Iran has no chance. Iran does not have a nuclear weapon and delivery vehicles, the US will turn Iran into the desert.
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Old 01-07-2020, 11:59 PM
 
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I thought they were may be flying VIA Tehran somewhere else, but from what you are saying it was a regular flight from Tehran?
For whatever reason it never crossed my mind that Ukrainians are flying to Iran ( out of all places.)
And the flight had a lot of people on board too it seems...
Maybe tourists, I don’t know. Daily flight.

avia.tutu.ru/reys/ps_752/
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Old 01-08-2020, 12:11 AM
 
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Hm.

The data is not verified, but interesting. On board the jet were citizens of
Iran 71,
Canada 73,
Germany 4,
Great Britain 3,
Sweden 6,
Afghanistan 6,
Ukraine 2.

13 crew members Ukrainians.
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Old 01-08-2020, 12:18 AM
 
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Hm.

The data is not verified, but interesting. On board the jet were citizens of
Iran 71,
Canada 73,
Germany 4,
Great Britain 3,
Sweden 6,
Afghanistan 6,
Ukraine 2.

13 crew members Ukrainians.

https://breaking911.com/breaking-pas...ashes-in-iran/
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