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Old 09-13-2018, 09:19 PM
 
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No. Agents are expensive piece people. To train an agent requires a lot of money and time. Why risk two agents at once? This story is complete nonsense.

1. Motivation. Skripal was in Russian prison and participated in the system of exchange of agents. His murder can break this system. What for?
2. Agents delivery means. The plane from Moscow? Are you joking? This is a 100% career agent ending. Agents use illegal migrations to enter a country or complex schemes using several intermediate states.
3. Murder without preparation. A good agent collects all data about a victim. He/she knows everything. Casual people (daughter) do not suffer.
4. Utilization of weapons. A weapon is a trace. Trace must be hidden. In this case, random people suffered. This is a bad job.
5. Movement. Agents are trained to hide their movement. These guys came across cameras and used a bad mode of transport.

Housewives and Ukrainians can believe in the story of Putin's agents. But we must be more serious. Most likely smugglers. Maybe they transported some light drugs. This explains why they did not contact reporters immediately after the news.
More holes in the police account of the Skripal case.

https://www.theblogmire.com/some-que...olitan-police/
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Old 09-13-2018, 09:32 PM
 
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LOL, yeah that's it. Russian men go to Salisbury to buy "light drugs" at UK prices because drugs are that hard to find in Russia. Maybe some foolish westerner could believe such a fairy tale

Your only defense seems to rest on the myth that Russian agents would be professionals like in James Bond movie. Nope, this actually fits the pattern of their guys.
It all depends what kind of drugs.
Since these two were in Europe on numerous occasions before, it becomes obvious that they conduct their *business* on a regular basis. Hence, they have prominent *clients* back in Russia. Yes, they DO come across as some kind of mid-level dealers.
"Russian professionals in James Bond movies" look like this - i.e. much worse than these two guys.
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Old 09-14-2018, 01:32 AM
 
Location: England
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I watched the RT interview with some friends, what a laugh it was! Especially when they described the world famous Salisbury cathedral spire, and the world famous clock therein. They, of course, left out the world famous Skripal door handle that they visited.
Outside of Russia this interview is being treated as just more Putin B/S, but you have to give Putin some credit it was very funny.
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Old 09-14-2018, 02:55 AM
 
Location: Russia
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I watched the RT interview with some friends, what a laugh it was! Especially when they described the world famous Salisbury cathedral spire, and the world famous clock therein. They, of course, left out the world famous Skripal door handle that they visited.
Outside of Russia this interview is being treated as just more Putin B/S, but you have to give Putin some credit it was very funny.

I think this is a big problem in the West. Russian military intelligence in Caucasus or Syria shows itself very well. Do you think this is possible with this level of agents?
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Old 09-14-2018, 02:59 AM
 
Location: SE UK
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I watched the RT interview with some friends, what a laugh it was! Especially when they described the world famous Salisbury cathedral spire, and the world famous clock therein. They, of course, left out the world famous Skripal door handle that they visited.
Outside of Russia this interview is being treated as just more Putin B/S, but you have to give Putin some credit it was very funny.
The Russians must think we are stupid lol!! People are laughing their socks off over this! Shame Stonehenge was 'too muddy' for them to visit! Still they still had the world renowned church steeple in Salisbury to see , definitely worth the trip! F**king hilarious this one. Putin needs to realise that in the UK the population didn't spend 75 years or so under a Communist boot being fed false propaganda, they are not going to be quite so 'gullible'. For gods sake some Russians in England p*ssed off Putin, a couple of bungling agents were sent to 'punish' them by death (something the Russians historically have no qualms about) modern technology has identified the culprits, the Russians won't give them up, there is nothing more can be said or done apart from sanctions or the like (not that they have worked in the past), seriously are people 'surprised' at Putin still? The Russians (including Putin) still seem to think the year is 1905, its time to 'move on' from this (laughable if it wasn't so tragic) affair altogether.
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Old 09-14-2018, 03:32 AM
 
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They are not curable.
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Old 09-14-2018, 03:46 AM
 
Location: Russia
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More holes in the police account of the Skripal case.

https://www.theblogmire.com/some-que...olitan-police/

Perhaps this is not the first arrival of the guys in Salisbury. If they were engaged in regular "business", then their route repeated. The police could give photos not one day, but a long period (several visits).
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Old 09-14-2018, 08:09 AM
 
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Perhaps this is not the first arrival of the guys in Salisbury. If they were engaged in regular "business", then their route repeated. The police could give photos not one day, but a long period (several visits).
My guess is that they are informants used to collect information on their many business trips.

Their walking route is quite a long distance from the Skripal home and lay well to the east of all the landmarks in the poisoning event with the Skripal home being the farthest distance and across the river. If they were going to poison the Skripals while doing everything else out in the open, it stands to reason that they would've rented a car. The write ups in the British press claim they were walking in the direction of the Skripal's house and that there was no snow but it was snowing everywhere. Well, at some point everyday, everyone walks in that direction.

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Old 09-14-2018, 08:32 AM
 
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On French TV, the British had prepared to go to war in Syria two years before the outbreak of war there.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeyRwFHR8WY

I heard the same about the US in 2013 on CNN. The US already had several thousand special forces and special ops inside Syria from 2010, three years before Obama's executive order for training an army of ex-Syrian military, which turned out to be fake.
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Old 09-14-2018, 11:38 AM
DKM
 
Location: California
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Yes we should all believe a retired socialist from the 80s as the ultimate arbiter of truth. all those thousands of people in Idlib today marching and waving flags must be ignored as they do not exist. Putin declared the civilians there are legit targets for bombing yet I noticed Russia stopped bombing them, so I guess Turkey dictates what happens there now.
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