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Old 02-24-2021, 09:23 PM
 
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Makes no sense. There is no EU establishment. The EU countries change their politicians and political parties regularly. If you're referring to democrats as in democracies, then yes. Democracy itself is anti-Russian and thus Ukraine is an anti-Russian project in that sense.



Also makes no sense. We aren't sacrificing anything. We get all we need from Russia, which is certain raw materials. They still buy our passenger jets. Less because they are getting poorer. Everything is normal.

I refer to left-leaning part of European establishment, that vouch for immigration and LGBT rights to no end.
( Same as in the US.)
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Old 02-24-2021, 11:00 PM
 
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Also makes no sense. We aren't sacrificing anything. We get all we need from Russia, which is certain raw materials. They still buy our passenger jets. Less because they are getting poorer. Everything is normal.
No, not because of this.. Because they either crash into the ground by themselves, or they crumble in the air.
Everything is normal.
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Old 02-24-2021, 11:11 PM
DKM
 
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The world buys western jets because we force them to right? They all want Russian aircraft but the USA threatens those poor countries into using inferior western passenger jets. Such an injustice!
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Old 02-24-2021, 11:16 PM
 
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The world buys western jets because we force them to right? They all want Russian aircraft but the USA threatens those poor countries into using inferior western passenger jets. Such an injustice!
So let the world buys them. Russia has its own planes.
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Old 02-24-2021, 11:40 PM
DKM
 
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So let the world buys them. Russia has its own planes.
Is that why a Russian airline sued Boeing last summer to try to let it buy planes it canceled earlier? It canceled because they didn't have the money, the planes were resold and then they sued to be able to buy them anyway?

You're right though, Boeing should close its design center in Moscow. Nothing good comes from there.
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Old 02-25-2021, 12:03 AM
 
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Is that why a Russian airline sued Boeing last summer to try to let it buy planes it canceled earlier? It canceled because they didn't have the money, the planes were resold and then they sued to be able to buy them anyway?
Are you talking about the 737 MAX? And it was not an airline, but a leasing company.. And it is right that they refused of this jets Why do we need this defective junk!?

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You're right though, Boeing should close its design center in Moscow. Nothing good comes from there.
Yeah, and they also need to give up the Russian titanium..
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Old 02-25-2021, 12:17 AM
 
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It's funny to see how some people justify the violation of freedom of speech in Latvia and Ukraine. It's very funny.
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Old 02-25-2021, 12:33 AM
 
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Russian mortality increased 20% in 2020, one of the highest increases in deaths over 2019 in the world. They also undercounted their deaths from covid by more than any country in the world not named Belarus Egypt or end in "-stan". By undercount, I mean attribute the lowest ratio of excess deaths to covid. But Russia doesn't allow excess death rates to be mentioned in the media (Putin doesn't allow bad news to exist), so perhaps this explains why they don't seem to care too much? Or their usual contempt of human life applies here as well.
In 2020 2124000 people died.


https://i.ibb.co/PWJk59C/image.jpg

This is nothing special. 10-15 years ago there were comparable numbers. The increase in mortality from the previous year is normal, since there was an economic crisis, restrictive measures and a burden on health care.

Your conspiracy theories are as ridiculous as the attempts to justify the oppression of free speech in some countries.
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Old 02-25-2021, 12:50 PM
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Are you talking about the 737 MAX? And it was not an airline, but a leasing company.. And it is right that they refused of this jets Why do we need this defective junk!?
I'm not talking about the max, and they refused the jets because they ran out of money and then SUED to claim the right to BUY them when they got the money. This flies in the face of your many false claims. Facts keep contradicting the Russian narrative and its easy to point them out.
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Old 02-25-2021, 01:02 PM
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In 2020 2124000 people died.



This is nothing special. 10-15 years ago there were comparable numbers. The increase in mortality from the previous year is normal, since there was an economic crisis, restrictive measures and a burden on health care.

Your conspiracy theories are as ridiculous as the attempts to justify the oppression of free speech in some countries.
Deaths increased faster in 2020 than in any other nation in the world and a faster increase than in Russia in any year since the war and you call it "normal." That actually is the reaction I expected. Its the speed in the increase that is remarkable (only 1993 matches it since the war) and the fact that it clearly isn't representing the official government numbers for covid deaths. You're okay with your government hiding its covid deaths and that's your right. Why be upset, government job is to protect the people stealing Russian taxpayer money.

Births are down over 25% in 5 years, so that isn't going to help counter the die-off. Only Uzbek migrants will help cover this.

Russians talking about "free speech" in other countries.

Is it true Moscow is voting to restore their statue of Iron Felix? If so, is something getting into the water supply over there or what?!

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