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The Vele of Scampia for the most part aren't inhabitated anymore. 3 of them have already been destroyed and hopefully the rest of them will follow. They have an interesting history of poor planning and architecure.
The term ghetto is really overused, the term ghetto is meant to be used to describe a place where people from a certain minority are segregated and that means there's no real ghettos in Europe unlike the USA where there are still remnants of racial segregation that was put in place in the first part of the 20th century
It seems like there are many banilieues in France with majority maghrebi and sub saharan african populations. For example Clichy , Saint Denis, Sevran, and others near Paris. Marseilles seems to have even more of these areas.
All medieval cities had ghettoes (juderias, call, etc), in which Jews lived until different progroms destroyed their comunities, also ghettoes that lodged muslims in Portugal and Spain until they were expelled (aljamas)...and streets devoted to ancient guilds.
Medieval ghettoes were recreated and destroyed by nazis, Russian Tzars (land allocation),
But no ghettoes today in that context.
Poor areas are inabitged by many groups.
The fact that a low rent area is inhabited by muslims and buddists, or whatever, does not mean it0s a ghetto since there are people of many origins, many locals too. Not a black ghetto as in the US.
All medieval cities had ghettoes (juderias, call, etc), in which Jews lived until different progroms destroyed their comunities, also ghettoes that lodged muslims in Portugal and Spain until they were expelled (aljamas)...and streets devoted to ancient guilds.
Medieval ghettoes were recreated and destroyed by nazis, Russian Tzars (land allocation),
But no ghettoes today in that context.
Poor areas are inabitged by many groups.
The fact that a low rent area is inhabited by muslims and buddists, or whatever, does not mean it0s a ghetto since there are people of many origins, many locals too. Not a black ghetto as in the US.
No poor areas are inhabited by poor groups. Yes, also locals but mostly poor locals that are on welfare or in low working class jobs. The new arrived immigrants and refugees are dumped in their neighborhoods in the old run down houses all cramped together wich makes them feel like second class citizens. And because they are dumped there, the poor locals and working class also feel treated as second classes...
The crime rises, racism rises, and the hate starts blooming.
That does feel like segregation at least a little bit if you ask me. And the govt makes it sound like it's all so multicultural and nice but it's not. It's a melting pot of hate...
The govt should take in much much less. Only the true refugees that are in actual danger, and spread them truly in a wide way over the entire country, also in the rich and middle class areas. So there's actually a chance of them integrating and adapt to our ways, instead of only teaching them to hate us.
Edit: .....and teaching us to hate them...
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I guess you are comparing Europe with American Hoods, which is grossly out of sight.
If you studied American History, real American History and not PC textbooks, you will know that as Europeans arrived in NY they lived in crowded tenements that were in many cases dangerous and prone to fire.
The above situation is more similar to the European scenario, but not the hoods present all around your country.
I guess you are comparing Europe with American Hoods, which is grossly out of sight.
If you studied American History, real American History and not PC textbooks, you will know that as Europeans arrived in NY they lived in crowded tenements that were in many cases dangerous and prone to fire.
The above situation is more similar to the European scenario, but not the hoods present all around your country.
I was not comparing to America, I was talking about European hoods. Then maybe I misinterpreted your previous post. Anyways, wat I said is how they do it in Europe and I think it isn't the right way.
First it should be defined what 'ghetto' means. The contemporary meaning of the word is something like 'impoverished low income area with lots of violent(gun related) crime and lots of urban or rural decay where the laws of a functional society don't apply'. Examples of that would be parts of Rio, Detroit, Baltimore, New Orleans, Chicago, Camden, Flint, LA, or the rural ghettos in Nebraska but it does not get quite as bad as those in Europe.
What are you talking about doesn't get as bad? You telling me they aren't parts of Europe with 'impoverished low income area with lots of violent crime and lots of urban or rural decay where the laws of a functional society don't apply' ??
Places like Gronzy, Dagastan, Donestk look like the apocalypse - there is no place in the States as bad as these places. There has been non stop war in Europe for 20 years. Former Yugoslavia, Chechnya and now Ukraine.
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