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Old 02-03-2015, 11:00 AM
 
Location: Russia
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Just deal with it.


No problem. Just you should not tell tales about the terrible aggressor-Russia. You are the same aggressors.
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Old 02-03-2015, 11:02 AM
 
Location: Finland
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Oh yeah. And when a country does not want to sign an association that would destroy the economy and make it poor, as was the case with Poland, Lithuania and other countries joined the EU, the EU arranges state coup and makes the country impoverished rhinestones. We've seen.
What coups did the EU arrange in Poland or Lithuania? I would like to know, as the EU has no power to do so. Do you really think that Poland, the most russophobic nation on earth would vote for anything else?
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Old 02-03-2015, 11:29 AM
 
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In theory? No.
In practice? Yes.
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Old 02-03-2015, 11:46 AM
 
Location: Russia
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What coups did the EU arrange in Poland or Lithuania? I would like to know, as the EU has no power to do so. Do you really think that Poland, the most russophobic nation on earth would vote for anything else?
And I said something about the vote in Poland and Lithuania?

ps. Well about Lithuania now I can say - there exist non-gradans not having the right to vote. Mostly Russian, why would it, if not to the national hatred and denial of freedoms and the right to vote?) But in Europe so terrible fight for those rights in Russia ..
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Old 02-03-2015, 12:06 PM
 
Location: Estonia
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And I said something about the vote in Poland and Lithuania?

ps. Well about Lithuania now I can say - there exist non-gradans not having the right to vote. Mostly Russian, why would it, if not to the national hatred and denial of freedoms and the right to vote?) But in Europe so terrible fight for those rights in Russia ..
So what you are saying is that Russians, no matter where they live, independent if they are citizens where they live, should have to right to vote for parliament, because after all they are Russians. Guess what Spacko, laws apply to everybody, Russians get no special treatment.
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Old 02-03-2015, 02:04 PM
 
Location: Russia
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So what you are saying is that Russians, no matter where they live, independent if they are citizens where they live, should have to right to vote for parliament, because after all they are Russians. Guess what Spacko, laws apply to everybody, Russians get no special treatment.
Because they live in the country on a par with everyone. But in Lithuania really do not want to see some people to vote in the elections, because they spoil the "picture."

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Old 02-03-2015, 02:07 PM
 
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why would they get to vote if they aren't citizens of the country?
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Old 02-03-2015, 02:18 PM
 
Location: Russia
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why would they get to vote if they aren't citizens of the country?
Read about them. They are citizens, and leave in Lithuania, but goverment does not want to see their votes at a polling station. And they found a way out of this problem, as they believe. They give them a passport of non-citizens. Type live here, yes, but you do not have rights.

Here the distinction between citizens and non-citizens. The Lithuanian website in Russian. You can translate and make sure all over yourselves.
?????? ?????? ???????? ? ?????? ??????? ? ????????? : ???????? ????????? ?????????? ?????????? : ??????????? ????
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Old 02-03-2015, 03:49 PM
 
Location: Estonia
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why would they get to vote if they aren't citizens of the country?
Coz they be Russians, duuhh.
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Read about them. They are citizens, and leave in Lithuania, but goverment does not want to see their votes at a polling station. And they found a way out of this problem, as they believe. They give them a passport of non-citizens. Type live here, yes, but you do not have rights.

Here the distinction between citizens and non-citizens. The Lithuanian website in Russian. You can translate and make sure all over yourselves.
?????? ?????? ???????? ? ?????? ??????? ? ????????? : ???????? ????????? ?????????? ?????????? : ??????????? ????
Firstly, you give a link connected to Latvia not Lithuania, which shows the amount of credibility (the lack of) people can expect from you.

Secondly, If they are citizens, then they can participate in all the elections, not matter what their ethnicity is. If you are not a citizen of Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania, you will be given a so called gray passport, which gives you all the same rights as the citizens, except you can't vote on the parliamentarian elections. The grey passport also grants you visa free (!) travel to all EU countries and Russia (!!!), you are also freed from conscription to the military. Now, if you think about it, being a gray passport holder in these countries, for the average Ivan, the advantages outweigh the disadvantages. Now comes the so called discrimination, they want all the rights the citizens have + their special rights. Why is that so? Because of the 'vsjo nash' mentality, because they are pure fascists and don't respect the countries they live in.

Thirdly, Russia has spouted this nonsense about Russians being discriminated in the Baltic's for decades now and all the brain-fried Putin-bots keep spreading the 'word'. No one it their senses takes this seriously, it's like the amen in the church. Fact is, the Russians in the Baltic's enjoy much better quality of life than the average Russian in Russia, not to speak about all the benefits that come with freedom of speech.
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Old 02-03-2015, 03:56 PM
 
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If you are not a citizen of Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania, you will be given a so called gray passport, which gives you all the same rights as the citizens, except you can't vote on the parliamentarian elections. The grey passport also grants you visa free (!) travel to all EU countries and Russia (!!!), you are also freed from conscription to the military.
Can anyone get one of these grey passports? Or just russians.
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