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- "The EU lacks the fundamental democratic legitimacy to extend its power on the member states. Even more, it has never found a way to deal between the differences of nationalism and federalism, and doesn't seem to do so in the near future either.
And yes, the Union is split and we have here a very different attitude than for example Poland or Hungary. That's no surprise, as for us the year 1945 was one of a democratic reform, for those countries it was 1989. Of course they have a different attitude! If the EU cannot deal with these issues, in 25 years the union might be something only we historians read about. And if the former Warsaw Pact countries couldn't accept the Soviet ideology, how could they accept the pan-European ideology?"
Don't blame me. You demonstrate very well in almost all your posts that you have around the same intelligence as my coffee maker. Of course I'd choose chess, as I'm adept at the game and it's quite hard.
Do you want to throw any more insults at me from the safety of your computer? Or are you done now? You seem insistent that you are 'better' than me - oh how very 'European'.
It seems to me that 'some' Europeans have failed to move on from the sort of attitudes that plunged the continent into so many wars. You don't seem to like the fact that we are sick of the Euro narcissism and want out, well tough, perhaps a little more humility will serve you better than your constant abuse.
Ribbentrop-Molotov pact. A secret clause allowed Soviet invasion of Finland. By the way, the behaviour of Scandinavian countries towards Finland was nasty at that war.
I don't think Brexit is such a bad thing because the UK has been dragging the EU from integrating further.
A EU without the UK will allow it to finally bring upon integration!
And an integrated EU is a good thing because?
The EU is a failed state and it is time it comes to end; after which all the EU bureaucrats should be disallowed to ever work for government again. Away with that monster (EU).
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And an integrated EU is a good thing because?
The EU is a failed state and it is time it comes to end; after which all the EU bureaucrats should be disallowed to ever work for government again. Away with that monster (EU).
It's for the other EU countries now to decide how far they wish to intergrate, although the EU Economy is dominated by Germany.
In terms of the UK we were never going to agree to many of the EU's objectives, so it's probably best that we do leave and stay on the fringes, and let the rest of Europe decide what they want.
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Originally Posted by The Guardian (John Redwood)
The commencement of Brexit negotiations this week is good news for the UK and the EU. It is in the interests of both parties to agree a great new relationship.
After all those years of the UK dragging its heels, refusing to join in, seeking to delay progress to political union and declining to be part of the euro, we can at last sort out a strong and positive relationship that works for us both.
Under Conservative, Labour and coalition governments the UK was never willing to accept all the moves to union or all the requirements of the EU.
We kept our difficult relationship going with a series of opt-outs from the currency, the borders, from full freedom of movement, from defence union and from parts of the foreign policy and criminal justice arrangements.
This held up the EU’s wish to complete its union and caused ill feelings about the UK as the reluctant European.
The EU knows that the UK electorate voted by a majority to leave the EU, that our parliament voted by overwhelming majority to send the article 50 letter as formal notice that we will leave
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