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TBF we Brits were with the French on this one. I guess the French and British don't like seeing children gassed to death by a mad man even if some of the opposition forces are equally disgusting.
Chemical Warfare facilities have now rightly been destroyed and both sides can now adhere to the Geneva Convention and other such international legislation.
As for France, it's a very pleasant and beautiful country and I do like a croissant and a cup of coffee or a baguette with some brie and a glass of red wine.
The direct Eurostar train service from London to the South of France has also been a welcome addition in terms of travelling options.
All the Best to the French.
I hope one day Syria will become strong enough to respond to such terrorist attacks by launching counter attacks and hitting London and Paris, just to let you guys know how it feels when bombs fall on you from the sky.
BTW, Syria did not have any "Chemical Warfare facilities", the sole purpose of the strike was to hide evidence that the alleged "chemical attack" was a staged one - OPSW was supposed to start working in Syria today, now they have nothing to work with.
Genuine question - why, specifically, are the 40-odd deaths a week ago in Douma any worse than the half a million deaths that came before? Is it really any more tragic to see Syrian kids being gassed than it is to see Syrian kids getting blown to bits?
There were also images in March showing Syrians in a basement who had burnt to death after the Syrian regime used napalm. Burning to death is slow and agonising, much worse than being gassed to death. No red line drawn.
And it's also worth bearing in mind that white phosphorus is still used in warfare even though it literally burns the skin off bones. Again, no red line is drawn there.
It's all a bit hypocritical really. If international law dictates that using chlorine is not allowed but using countless other horrible things that result in slow and painful deaths is absolutely fine then international law needs changing.
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Genuine question - why, specifically, are the 40-odd deaths a week ago in Douma any worse than the half a million deaths that came before? Is it really any more tragic to see Syrian kids being gassed than it is to see Syrian kids getting blown to bits?
There were also images in March showing Syrians in a basement who had burnt to death after the Syrian regime used napalm. Burning to death is slow and agonising, much worse than being gassed to death. No red line drawn.
And it's also worth bearing in mind that white phosphorus is still used in warfare even though it literally burns the skin off bones. Again, no red line is drawn there.
It's all a bit hypocritical really. If international law dictates that using chlorine is not allowed but using countless other horrible things that result in slow and painful deaths is absolutely fine then international law needs changing.
Chatham House offer a good analysis of the events in Douma and the Assad regime.
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I hope one day Syria will become strong enough to respond to such terrorist attacks by launching counter attacks and hitting London and Paris, just to let you guys know how it feels when bombs fall on you from the sky.
BTW, Syria did not have any "Chemical Warfare facilities", the sole purpose of the strike was to hide evidence that the alleged "chemical attack" was a staged one - OPSW was supposed to start working in Syria today, now they have nothing to work with.
The OPCW have warned Syria before but they took no notice, and the US, UK and French targets were not civilians but the chemical warfare and research facilities listed below.
You also seem to forget that a lot of Europe was extensively carpet bombed during WW2 including some British cities and our ancestors did know what it was liked to be bombed.
However as already opinted out this wasa strategic bombing with no casualties, and weas designed to destroy chemical stocks, the use of which is benned under international law.
It is Syria Russia and Iran who have been bombing civilian targets and cities and not the west.
At a Pentagon briefing on Saturday, Lt Gen Kenneth McKenzie listed the three targets that had been struck in a "precise, overwhelming and effective" manner:
The Barzah chemical weapons research and development centre near Damascus was hit by 76 missiles, 57 of them Tomahawk cruise missiles, and "destroyed"
The Him Shinshar chemical weapons storage facility near Homs was hit by 22 missiles - nine US Tomahawks, eight British Storm Shadows and five naval cruise missiles and two Scalp cruise missiles launched by France
The Him Shinshar chemical weapons bunker facility near Homs was targeted with seven Scalp missiles and was "successfully hit"
Gen McKenzie said the "initial indications are that we accomplished the military objectives without interference from Syria".
Not among their biggest fans but they easily school the Anglos in 3 'departments':
1. Buildings;
2. Climate.
3. Language
^ Pretty solid points if you think about it.
As if the climate were their personal achievement. Strange item in your list.
But the OP sounds like he never studied French in school or university. In my high school French program, we not only studied the language, but the literature, geography, and a bit of history and culture. Anyone who went through that program would be incapable of making the kinds of uninformed statements the OP makes.
What is the moral argument against destroying chemical weapons sites? France is the thug for blowing up some storage facility after people were murdered with the same chemicals?
Genuine question - why, specifically, are the 40-odd deaths a week ago in Douma any worse than the half a million deaths that came before? Is it really any more tragic to see Syrian kids being gassed than it is to see Syrian kids getting blown to bits?
There were also images in March showing Syrians in a basement who had burnt to death after the Syrian regime used napalm. Burning to death is slow and agonising, much worse than being gassed to death. No red line drawn.
And it's also worth bearing in mind that white phosphorus is still used in warfare even though it literally burns the skin off bones. Again, no red line is drawn there.
It's all a bit hypocritical really. If international law dictates that using chlorine is not allowed but using countless other horrible things that result in slow and painful deaths is absolutely fine then international law needs changing.
I think the point is no matter what, we cannot stand for a world where it goes unpunished to use chemicals to kill other people. The response does not have to solve other problems, just this one. Certain lines cannot be crossed.
I think the point is no matter what, we cannot stand for a world where it goes unpunished to use chemicals to kill other people. The response does not have to solve other problems, just this one. Certain lines cannot be crossed.
WE USE CHEMICAL WEAPONS.
have you heard of the Vietnam war, or have you seen what what happen to young Iranians in the 80s?
Maybe the US should be attacked.
To Assad, we have no right to attack them. We armed terrorist in their country with chemical weapons to instigate a civil war and at the same time support the Saudis butchering of children in Yemen.
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Strange item in your list.
